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Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT

From Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT
Date 2016-11-11 17:30 +0100
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On Nov 11 2016, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> wrote:
>> On Nov 11 2016, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> In commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5 you added a new FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT
>>>> flag. But as far as I can tell, the flag is simply accepted without
>>>> having any effect (including in libfuse).
>>>>
>>>> I tried to find related later commits, but did not find anything either.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Hmm, if fuse fs detects this flag, then it can return ENOSYS from open
>>> resulting in this and subsequent opens succeeding without further
>>> calls to userspace.    If fuse fs doesn't detect this flag, it should
>>> not return -ENOSYS, as that will result in the open failing, it should
>>> instead implement a no-op open method.
>>
>> That doesn't sound like a good approach to me. That way, the file system
>> has to *know* that this flag has been introduced in order to behave
>> correctly, i.e. filesystems that predate the introduction of the flag
>> will suddenly behave differently.
>>
>> I think the correct behavior would be to for the kernel to check if
>> userspace passed the flag, and treat ENOSYS specially if and only if the
>> flag was passed.
>
> ENOSYS is not a valid return value for any existing syscall.  Fuse
> uses that fact to attach this special meaning to ENOSYS.  So
> compatibility is not an issue here, old filesystems should never
> return ENOSYS from open.

Oh, I was under the impression that any FUSE handler is free to return
any error it wants. Where does one have to look to determine which
return values are valid?


Best,
-Nikolaus

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commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-10 23:40 +0100
  Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT  flag to INIT Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> - 2016-11-11 00:20 +0100
    Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-11 06:00 +0100
      Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT  flag to INIT Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> - 2016-11-11 09:50 +0100
        Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-11 17:30 +0100
          Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT  flag to INIT Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com> - 2016-11-11 18:00 +0100
            Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-11 18:30 +0100
              Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT  flag to INIT Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com> - 2016-11-11 19:00 +0100
                Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-15 17:00 +0100
              Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT  flag to INIT Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> - 2016-11-15 14:40 +0100
                Re: commit d7afaec0b564f0609e116f5: fuse: add FUSE_NO_OPEN_SUPPORT flag to INIT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-11-15 17:00 +0100

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