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Re: [PATCH] nvmem: sunxi-sid: SID content is not a valid source of randomness

From	Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH] nvmem: sunxi-sid: SID content is not a valid source of randomness
Date	2016-11-10 16:20 +0100
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 03:26:48PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 07:38:55AM +0200, LABBE Corentin wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:10:20PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 03:53:28PM +0200, Corentin Labbe wrote:
> > > > Since SID's content is constant over reboot,
> > > 
> > > That's not true, at least not across all the Allwinner SoCs, and
> > > especially not on the A10 and A20 that this driver supports.
> > > 
> > 
> > On my cubieboard2 (A20)
> > hexdump -C /sys/devices/platform/soc\@01c00000/1c23800.eeprom/sunxi-sid0/nvmem 
> > 00000000  16 51 66 83 80 48 50 72  56 54 48 48 03 c2 75 72  |.Qf..HPrVTHH..ur|
> > 00000010  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
> > *
> > 00000100  16 51 66 83 80 48 50 72  56 54 48 48 03 c2 75 72  |.Qf..HPrVTHH..ur|
> > 00000110  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
> > *
> > 00000200
> > cubiedev ~ # reboot
> > cubiedev ~ # hexdump -C /sys/devices/platform/soc\@01c00000/1c23800.eeprom/sunxi-sid0/nvmem 
> > 00000000  16 51 66 83 80 48 50 72  56 54 48 48 03 c2 75 72  |.Qf..HPrVTHH..ur|
> > 00000010  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
> > *
> > 00000100  16 51 66 83 80 48 50 72  56 54 48 48 03 c2 75 72  |.Qf..HPrVTHH..ur|
> > 00000110  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
> > *
> > 00000200
> > 
> > So clearly for me its constant.
> 
> It's constant across reboots, but not across devices. Each device have
> a different SID content, therefore it's a relevant source of entropy
> in the system.
> 

Not the 3 leading digit and not the tailing zeros which are the same accross device.
So only 50% of data are really different accross devices.
Perhaps a "random-range" property could be used ?

Herbert, does it is safe to add that 50% duplicate content via add_device_randomness() ?
Reading add_device_randomness doc, it seems finally it is safe, but if you could confirm it.

Regards

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