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Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to use the new unwinder

From Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to use the new unwinder
Date 2016-08-22 22:40 +0200
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 04:55:22PM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:27:18AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Convert arch_within_stack_frames() to use the new unwinder.
> > >
> > > This also changes some existing behavior:
> > >
> > > - Skip checking of pt_regs frames.
> > > - Warn if it can't reach the grandparent's stack frame.
> > > - Warn if it doesn't unwind to the end of the stack.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
> > 
> > All the stuff touching usercopy looks good to me. One question,
> > though, in looking through the unwinder. It seems like it's much more
> > complex than just the frame-hopping that the old
> > arch_within_stack_frames() did, but I'm curious to hear what you think
> > about its performance. We'll be calling this with every usercopy that
> > touches the stack, so I'd like to be able to estimate the performance
> > impact of this replacement...
> 
> Yeah, good point.  I'll take some measurements from before and after and
> get back to you.

I took some before/after measurements by enclosing the affected
functions with ktime calls to get the total time spent in each function,
and did a "find /usr >/dev/null" to trigger a bunch of user copies.

	copy_to/from_user	check_object_size	arch_within_stack_frames
before: 13ms			6.8ms			0.61ms
after: 	17ms			11ms			4.6ms

The unwinder port made arch_within_stack_frames() *much* (8x) slower
than its current simple implementation, and added about 30% (4ms) to the
total copy_to/from_user() run time.

Note that hardened usercopy itself is already quite slow: it made user
copies about 52% slower.  With the unwinder port, that worsened to ~65%.

"find /usr" took about 170ms of kernel time and 2.3s total.  So the
unwinder port added about 2% on the kernel side and 0.2% total for this
particular test case.  Though I'm sure there are more I/O-intensive
workloads out there which would be more adversely affected.

I haven't yet looked to see where the bottlenecks are and if there could
be any obvious performance improvements.

BTW, ignoring the performance issues, using the unwinder here would have
some benefits:

- It protects pt_regs frames from being changed.  For example, during a
  page fault operation, the saved regs->ip on the stack is protected.

- Unlike the existing code, it could potentially work with
  __copy_from_user_inatomic() and copy_from_user_nmi(), which can copy
  to/from an irq/exception stack.  (I think check_stack_object() would
  need to be rewritten a bit so that it doesn't always assume the task
  stack.)

- It complains loudly if there's stack corruption or something else goes
  wrong with walking the stack instead of just silently failing.

- The same code could also work with DWARF if we ever add a DWARF
  unwinder (with a possible tweak to the unwinder API to get the stack
  frame header size).

-- 
Josh

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[PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-18 15:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-19 20:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-20 00:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-22 22:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 01:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-23 03:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 06:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-08-23 00:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-23 03:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 18:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-08-24 01:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 18:10 +0200
      [PATCH 2/2] mm/usercopy: enable usercopy size checking for modern versions of gcc Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 21:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/usercopy: enable usercopy size checking for modern  versions of gcc Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-24 05:50 +0200
      [PATCH 1/2] mm/usercopy: get rid of "provably correct" warnings Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 21:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/usercopy: get rid of "provably correct" warnings Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-24 04:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-08-23 22:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-08-23 23:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-08-23 23:20 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 54/57] x86/mm: convert arch_within_stack_frames() to  use the new unwinder Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-24 03:50 +0200

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