Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.kernel > #1400858

Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit mode

From Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit mode
Date 2016-05-13 17:20 +0200
Message-ID <ryn2G-68D-15@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <ryk4P-2Yo-31@gated-at.bofh.it> <rykxP-3hP-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <rylay-3Vi-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <ryltU-49j-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <rymSZ-62Q-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
Organization linux.* mail to news gateway

Show all headers | View raw

Hi Alan,

On 05/13/2016 05:01 PM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:34:52 +0200
> Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Austin,
>>
>> On 05/13/2016 03:11 PM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
>>> On 2016-05-13 08:39, Sebastian Frias wrote:  
>>>>
>>>> My point is that it seems to be possible to deal with such conditions in a more controlled way, ie: a way that is less random and less abrupt.  
>>> There's an option for the OOM-killer to just kill the allocating task instead of using the scoring heuristic.  This is about as deterministic as things can get though.  
>>
>> By the way, why does it has to "kill" anything in that case?
>> I mean, shouldn't it just tell the allocating task that there's not enough memory by letting malloc return NULL?
> 
> Just turn off overcommit and it will do that. With overcommit disabled
> the kernel will not hand out address space in excess of memory plus swap.

I think I'm confused.
Michal just said:

   "And again, overcommit=never doesn't imply no-OOM. It just makes it less
likely. The kernel can consume quite some unreclaimable memory as well."

which I understand as the OOM-killer will still lurk around and could still wake up.

Will overcommit=never totally disable the OOM-Killer or not?

Best regards,

Sebastian

Back to linux.kernel | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 10:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> - 2016-05-13 10:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 12:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> - 2016-05-13 12:20 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 12:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 13:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> - 2016-05-13 14:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 16:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 16:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-05-13 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 17:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-05-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-17 10:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-17 11:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-17 18:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 19:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-18 17:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 18:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-17 22:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-18 17:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-19 09:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 19:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 15:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 12:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 14:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 14:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 15:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 15:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 16:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 17:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-05-13 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 17:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 17:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 15:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 16:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 17:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 17:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> - 2016-05-13 17:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-05-13 17:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-05-13 17:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 17:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-13 17:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-05-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit  mode Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net> - 2016-05-23 15:20 +0200

csiph-web