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Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available

From David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available
Date 2016-05-10 10:30 +0200
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Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> > It does what stat() does now, whatever that is for each fs.  The
> > assumption is that this might be used to emulate stat() from userspace.
> > However, we want to be able to make sure we get the two behaviours above.
> 
> And why would you emulate stat if we already have a perfectly working
> version of it?  Either way we need to document what that behavior is,
> and why userspace would chose one of the three options.

Because it's not necessarily a perfectly working version of it.  See the Y2037
problem for example.

I was assuming that C libraries might want to update the struct stat and the
stat call() to provide fields that aren't currently there in Linux but are in
other OS's.  We could even dispense with older stat syscalls on new arches.

Admittedly, this means that you would have backwardly incompatible versions of
the C library and would have to version your interface, so it might be too
much effort.

However, if we're going to discard this possibility, we can make these
features available only to direct calls of extended stat.

David

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[RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:00 +0200
  [PATCH 4/6] statx: NFS: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 4/6] statx: NFS: Return enhanced file attributes Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> - 2016-05-03 00:50 +0200
  [PATCH 6/6] statx: CIFS: Return enhanced attributes David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:00 +0200
  [PATCH 3/6] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 3/6] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> - 2016-05-03 00:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 3/6] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-03 22:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 3/6] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-08 10:40 +0200
  [PATCH 5/6] statx: Make windows attributes available for CIFS,  NTFS and FAT to use David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 5/6] statx: Make windows attributes available for CIFS, NTFS and FAT to use Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> - 2016-05-03 01:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 5/6] statx: Make windows attributes available for CIFS, NTFS and FAT to use David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-03 22:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 5/6] statx: Make windows attributes available for CIFS,  NTFS and FAT to use Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-08 10:40 +0200
  [PATCH 2/6] statx: AFS: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 15:20 +0200
  Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> - 2016-04-30 23:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-03 18:00 +0200
  Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-04 15:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 15:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2016-05-05 01:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available NeilBrown <nfbrown@novell.com> - 2016-05-05 02:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> - 2016-05-05 21:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-05 22:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2016-05-06 03:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields) - 2016-05-06 20:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields) - 2016-05-06 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2016-05-09 03:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> - 2016-05-09 04:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available NeilBrown <nfbrown@novell.com> - 2016-05-05 02:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-08 10:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> - 2016-05-09 14:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> - 2016-05-10 15:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-09 15:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-09 15:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com> - 2016-05-09 15:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-10 10:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-12 11:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-09 15:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-10 10:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info  available Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2016-05-12 11:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/6] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-05-09 15:50 +0200

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