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Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4

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On 5/9/2016 1:39 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2016 13:22:48 John Youn wrote:
>> On 5/9/2016 3:36 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> On Monday 09 May 2016 10:23:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2016-05-08 at 13:44 +0200, Christian Lamparter wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 08, 2016 08:40:55 PM Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 2016-05-08 at 00:54 +0200, Christian Lamparter via Linuxppc-dev 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been looking in getting the MyBook Live Duo's USB OTG port
>>>>>>> to function. The SoC is a APM82181. Which has a PowerPC 464 core
>>>>>>> and related to the supported canyonlands architecture in
>>>>>>> arch/powerpc/.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently in -next the dwc2 module doesn't load: 
>>>>>> Smells like the APM implementation is little endian. You might need to
>>>>>> use a flag to indicate what endian to use instead and set it
>>>>>> appropriately based on some DT properties.
>>>>> I tried. As per common-properties[0], I added little-endian; but it has no
>>>>> effect. I looked in dwc2_driver_probe and found no way of specifying the
>>>>> endian of the device. It all comes down to the dwc2_readl & dwc2_writel
>>>>> accessors. These - sadly - have been hardwired to use __raw_readl and
>>>>> __raw_writel. So, it's always "native-endian". While common-properties
>>>>> says little-endian should be preferred.
>>>>
>>>> Right, I meant, you should produce a patch adding a runtime test inside
>>>> those functions based on a device-tree property, a bit like we do for
>>>> some of the HCDs like OHCI, EHCI etc...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The patch that caused the problem had multiple issues:
>>>
>>> - it broke big-endian ARM kernels: any machine that was working
>>>   correctly with a little-endian kernel is no longer using byteswaps
>>>   on big-endian kernels, which clearly breaks them.
>>
>>
>> I'm a bit confused about how this is supposed to work. My
>> understanding was that the readl() and writel() are defined as little
>> endian. So byte-swapping was performed if the architecture is big
>> endian. And the raw versions never swapped, always using the "native"
>> endianness.
>>
>> dwc2 is always treating the result of readl/writel as if it was read
>> in native endian. So it needs to read the registers in big-endian on
>> big-endian systems.
> 
> The hardware has no idea of what endianess the CPU uses at any
> given time, it's fixed by the SoC design, so there is no such
> thing as "native" endianess for a random IP block.
> 
> The readl/writel accessors accomodate for that by swapping the
> data on big-endian kernels, because most SoC designers tend to
> pick little-endian device registers by default.
> 
>> This was the premise on which this patch was made.
>>
>> So for big endian systems, isn't what we want is to read in big-endian
>> without any byteswapping to little-endian? But your saying this breaks
>> big-endian ARM systems as well. Am I missing something?
> 
> The systems are not a particular endianess, only the current state
> of the CPU is, and that may change independent of the way the
> hardware block got synthesized. We don't support swapping endianess
> at runtime in Linux, but the system normally doesn't care what we
> run.
> 
> The normal behavior is for the register contents to be read as
> little-endian, and then swapped on big-endian kernel builds to
> match what the kernel expects.
> 
> MIPS is a special case here, because the endianess of the CPU
> core is fixed in hardware (or using a strapping pin) and is often
> tied to the endianess of all the IP blocks. There are a couple
> of other architectures like this (e.g. ARM ixp4xx, but none of the
> modern ARM systems).

Ok thanks. What you're saying is clear now.

Is there a standard way to handle this? Must all drivers either check
some endianness configuration or do a runtime check?

Regards,
John

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Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-08 13:50 +0200
  Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com> - 2016-05-09 02:30 +0200
    Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 12:40 +0200
      Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com> - 2016-05-09 12:50 +0200
        Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 17:10 +0200
          Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 22:20 +0200
          Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2016-05-10 00:40 +0200
            Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-10 09:30 +0200
              Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-12 12:00 +0200
                Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-12 14:00 +0200
          Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2016-05-10 00:50 +0200
        Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2016-05-10 00:40 +0200
      Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com> - 2016-05-09 16:10 +0200
      Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 John Youn <John.Youn@synopsys.com> - 2016-05-09 22:30 +0200
        Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 22:40 +0200
          Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since  4.3.0-rc4 John Youn <John.Youn@synopsys.com> - 2016-05-09 23:20 +0200
            Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since 4.3.0-rc4 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-05-09 23:40 +0200

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