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Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC

From Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC
Date 2016-03-22 23:10 +0100
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 03:40:28PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 03/22/2016 03:34 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:55:16AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>If you call sync, the initial call to wakeup_flusher_threads() ends up
> >>calling wb_start_writeback() with reason=WB_REASON_SYNC, but
> >>wb_start_writeback() always uses WB_SYNC_NONE as the writeback mode.
> >>Ensure that we use WB_SYNC_ALL for a sync operation.
> >
> >This seems wrong to me. We want background write to happen as
> >quickly as possible and /not block/ when we first kick sync.
> 
> It's not going to block. wakeup_flusher_threads() async queues
> writeback work through wb_start_writeback().

The flusher threads block, not the initial wakeup. e.g. they will
now block waiting for data writeback to complete before writing the
inode. i.e. this code in __writeback_single_inode() is now triggered
by the background flusher:

        /*
         * Make sure to wait on the data before writing out the metadata.
         * This is important for filesystems that modify metadata on data
         * I/O completion. We don't do it for sync(2) writeback because it has a
         * separate, external IO completion path and ->sync_fs for guaranteeing
         * inode metadata is written back correctly.
         */
        if (wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_ALL && !wbc->for_sync) {
                int err = filemap_fdatawait(mapping);
                if (ret == 0)
                        ret = err;
        }

It also changes the writeback chunk size in write_cache_pages(), so
instead of doing a bit of writeback from all dirty inodes, it tries
to write everything from each inode in turn (see
writeback_chunk_size()) which will further exacerbate the wait
above.

> >The latter blocking passes of sync use WB_SYNC_ALL to ensure that we
> >block waiting for all remaining IO to be issued and waited on, but
> >the background writeback doesn't need to do this.
> 
> That's fine, they can get to wait on the previously issued IO, which
> was properly submitted with WB_SYNC_ALL.
> 
> Maybe I'm missing your point?

Making the background flusher block and wait for data makes it
completely ineffective in speeding up sync() processing...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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[PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> - 2016-03-22 19:00 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use  WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2016-03-22 22:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use  WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> - 2016-03-22 22:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use  WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> - 2016-03-22 23:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use  WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2016-03-22 23:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: wb_start_writeback() should use  WB_SYNC_ALL for WB_REASON_SYNC Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> - 2016-03-22 23:10 +0100

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