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Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live patching

From Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live patching
Date 2016-06-27 10:20 +0200
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Pavel Machek wrote:

> > Live patching, as we use it, deliberately disrupts the fabric of
> > compile units; thus all assumptions a compiler can make about the
> > control flow may be invalid. As an example, it could analyse that a
> > callee does not touch a caller-saved register at all, so why waste
> > memory bandwidth saving it? The register allocations for the live
> > patch replacement function may however be quite different.
> > 
> > Starting with this example, disable all compiler optimisations that
> > do not strictly comply with the established calling conventions.
> 
> I thought that in such case, person creating the live patch should
> notice and adjust patch appropriately, at assembly level if
> neccessary..?

Yes, that still holds; a lot of things could be automated though, and 
creating the automation tools is one of the big TODO items.

> If this is not true, and we want gcc to help us, what other 
> optimalizations do we need to disable? Even changes inside one compiler 
> unit can be "interesting"...

What would actually be helpful is gcc providing us with a list of 
functions where it performed this ABI-violating optimization (similarly, 
we're already obtaining list of "what got inlined where"). Unfortunately, 
-fdump-ipa-ra is currently missing; I'm talking to gcc guys now to have it 
implemented.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

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Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live patching Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-06-27 00:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live  patching Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-06-27 10:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live  patching Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-06-27 10:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live patching Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-06-27 10:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live  patching Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-06-27 13:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live patching Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-06-27 10:30 +0200

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