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Re: [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback

From John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback
Date 2016-06-21 21:20 +0200
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2016, 11:11:42 schrieb John Stultz:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> I don't see in the above an explanation of *why* you're using
>> ktime_get_raw_ns() instead of ktime_get_ns().
>
> Could you help me understand what the difference is or point me to some
> documentation? I understood that we only talked about the _raw variant.

Using specialized interfaces with subtle semantics w/o understanding
them is sort of my concern here.

There are reasons why you might want to use the ktime_get_raw_ns()
interface over ktime_get_ns(), but they have not been made clear in
the comment. Arnd discussed some potential concerns that the freq
adjustment done by ntp might be somewhat predictable/controlled by
remote parties, which could have some effect in the calculation. That
feels a little overly vague to me, but I'm no crypto expert, so if
that is a reasonable concern, then it should be a conscious and
documented decision.

thanks
-john

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[PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2016-06-21 20:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> - 2016-06-21 20:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2016-06-21 21:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> - 2016-06-21 21:20 +0200
        Re: [Y2038] [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-06-21 21:40 +0200
          Re: [Y2038] [PATCH] crypto: Jitter RNG - use ktime_get_raw_ns as fallback John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> - 2016-06-21 21:40 +0200

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