Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > linux.kernel > #1403339

Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments

From "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments
Date 2016-05-19 01:10 +0200
Message-ID <rAiLg-7m-29@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <rzLvX-3Z5-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <rzY09-3jH-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <rA8Vz-2a6-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Organization linux.* mail to news gateway

Show all headers | View raw


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 05/17/2016 08:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> intel_rapl is currently not supported in virtualized environments.  When
>>> booting the warning message
>>>
>>> intel_rapl: no valid rapl domains found in package 0
>>
>> You seem to be saying that this message is problematic for some
>> reason, so why is it?
>>
>
> I thought about my previous answer and after thinking about it realized I didn't
> give you enough background Rafael.  Virtual environments won't use this feature
> as this is meant for restricting power consumption at the HW level.
>
> So ... here's the situation.  Most CPU features from Intel have a CPU feature
> bit (also known in some circles as cpuflags) set for them.  For example MCE has
> an mce bit that is exposed in /proc/cpuinfo.  Unfortunately, for Intel RAPL
> there is no bit (I don't know if someone dropped the ball or if Intel
> intentionally left this feature off ... I've heard both explanations :)).
>
> In any case the Intel RAPL driver is one of the few cpu based drivers in the
> kernel that still does a x86_match_cpu() against supported CPUs.  This means for
> virtual cpus which export the host cpu's cpu model number, the intel_rapl driver
> will attempt to load for each cpu.
>
> As a result the message
>
> intel_rapl: no valid rapl domains found in package 0
>
> is output as a *visible* error to the user for each virtual core.
>
> The error is valid for native cpus (although over 100s of systems I can say I've
> never seen the warning output on a native cpu) but it is clearly not valid for
> virtual cpus *because virtualized systems don't use this feature*.
>
> The driver shouldn't load on virt systems.  That's the bottom line here, and the
> patch prevents that from happening.  Would I prefer that there were some other
> mechanism to detect RAPL?  Yep.  I really really would.  But beyond mucking with
> MSRs (which is definitely more complicated and awful than this simple check) I
> don't see any easier method than the one I've proposed.
>
> I really don't want to be the one who sets the precedent of abusing x86_hyper in
> this way.  I know it isn't the "right" thing to do -- but I honestly do not see
> a better or cleaner way out of this.

One quite obvious alternative might be to reduce the log level of the
message in question, say to pr_debug.

Back to linux.kernel | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

[PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> - 2016-05-17 13:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2016-05-18 03:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> - 2016-05-18 12:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> - 2016-05-18 14:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2016-05-19 01:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> - 2016-05-19 01:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] powercap/rapl: Do not load in virtualized environments "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2016-05-19 01:50 +0200

csiph-web