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Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking up kcompactd

From Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking up kcompactd
Date 2016-03-02 15:10 +0100
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On 03/02/2016 02:57 PM, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> 2016-03-02 19:04 GMT+09:00 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>:
>> On 03/02/2016 07:33 AM, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Why you did the test with THP? THP interferes result of main test so
>>> it would be better not to enable it.
>>
>>
>> Hmm I've always left it enabled. It makes for a more realistic interference
>> and would also show unintended regressions in that closely related area.
>
> But, it makes review hard because complex analysis is needed to
> understand the result.
>
> Following is the example.
>
> "The compaction stalls
> (direct compaction) in the interfering kernel builds (probably THP's) also
> decreased somewhat to kcompactd activity, yet THP alloc successes improved a
> bit."
>
> So, why do we need this comment to understand effect of this patch? If you did
> a test without THP, it would not be necessary.

I see. Next time I'll do a run with THP disabled.

>>> And, this patch increased compaction activity (10 times for migrate
>>> scanned)
>>> may be due to resetting skip block information.
>>
>>
>> Note that kswapd compaction activity was completely non-existent for reasons
>> outlined in the changelog.
>>> Isn't is better to disable it
>>> for this patch to work as similar as possible that kswapd does and
>>> re-enable it
>>> on next patch? If something goes bad, it can simply be reverted.
>>>
>>> Look like it is even not mentioned in the description.
>>
>>
>> Yeah skip block information is discussed in the next patch, which mentions
>> that it's being reset and why. I think it makes more sense, as when kswapd
>
> Yes, I know.
> What I'd like to say here is that you need to care current_is_kswapd() in
> this patch. This patch unintentionally change the back ground compaction thread
> behaviour to restart compaction by every 64 trials because calling
> curret_is_kswapd()
 > by kcompactd would return false and is treated as direct reclaim.

Oh, you mean this path to reset the skip bits. I see. But if skip bits 
are already reset by kswapd when waking kcompactd, then effect of 
another (rare) reset in kcompactd itself will be minimal?

> Result of patch 4
> and patch 5 would be same.

It's certainly possible to fold patch 5 into 4. I posted them separately 
mainly to make review more feasible. But the differences in results are 
already quite small.

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Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> - 2016-03-02 07:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> - 2016-03-02 11:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> - 2016-03-02 15:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> - 2016-03-02 15:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm, kswapd: replace kswapd compaction with waking  up kcompactd Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> - 2016-03-02 16:30 +0100

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