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Re: [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel

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On 11/21/2015 12:40 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for confirmation. For QEMU/KVM, I totally agree your point; However,
>> if we take XenGT to consider, it will be a bit more complex: with Xen
>> hypervisor and Dom0 kernel running in different level, it's not a straight-
>> forward way for QEMU to do something like mapping a portion of MMIO BAR
>> via VFIO in Dom0 kernel, instead of calling hypercalls directly.
>
> This would need to be part of the support added for Xen.  To directly
> map a device MMIO space to the VM, VFIO provides an mmap, QEMU registers
> that mmap with KVM, or Xen.  It's all just MemoryRegions in QEMU.
> Perhaps it's even already supported by Xen.
>

AFAICT, things are different here for Xen. To establish mappings between
Dom0 pfns and DomU gfn, one will have to call Xen hypercalls. In the scene
above, either QEMU calls the hypercall directly, or it asks the VFIO in
dom0 kernel to do it.

I'm not saying that VFIO is not applicable for XenGT. I just want to
say that given the VFIO based kernel/QEMU split model, additional effort
is needed for XenGT.

>> I don't know if there is a better way to handle this. But I do agree that
>> channels between kernel and Qemu via VFIO is a good idea, even though we
>> may have to split KVMGT/XenGT in Qemu a bit.  We are currently working on
>> moving all of PCI CFG emulation from kernel to Qemu, hopefully we can
>> release it by end of this year and work with you guys to adjust it for
>> the agreed method.
>
> Well, moving PCI config space emulation from kernel to QEMU is exactly
> the wrong direction to take for this proposal.  Config space access to
> the vGPU would occur through the VFIO API.  So if you already have
> config space emulation in the kernel, that's already one less piece of
> work for a VFIO model, it just needs to be "wired up" through the VFIO
> API.  Thanks,

If I understand correctly, the idea of moving PCI CFG to QEMU is actually
very similar to your VFIO design:

	a) VM access a CFG regsiter
	b) KVM hands over the access to QEMU
	c) QEMU may emulate it, and when necessary, ioctl into kernel(i915/vgt)


>
> Alex
>
>
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Thanks,
Jike
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Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-18 19:20 +0100
  RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-19 05:10 +0100
    Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-19 08:30 +0100
      Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-11-19 16:40 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 17:00 +0100
          Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 04:00 +0100
            Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-20 05:30 +0100
              Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 07:00 +0100
                RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 07:10 +0100
                Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT  - a Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-23 06:00 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 17:00 +0100
          Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-11-19 17:20 +0100
    Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 09:50 +0100
      Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 12:10 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 03:50 +0100
      RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 07:20 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> - 2015-11-20 09:30 +0100
          RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 09:40 +0100
            Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Zhiyuan Lv <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 10:00 +0100
    Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 21:10 +0100
      RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 08:20 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-20 18:10 +0100
      RE: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> - 2015-11-20 09:20 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-11-20 18:30 +0100
          Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> - 2015-11-23 06:10 +0100
      Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> - 2015-11-24 12:20 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk> - 2015-11-24 13:00 +0100
        Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> - 2015-11-24 13:40 +0100
          Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> - 2015-11-24 14:40 +0100
            Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a  Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> - 2015-11-24 15:20 +0100
              Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated  Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> - 2015-11-24 15:20 +0100

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