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Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates

From "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates
Date 2015-11-19 16:00 +0100
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:13:35PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 09:05:12AM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> 
> > Yes, the host admin. I'm not talking about trusting the admin inside the
> > container at all.
> 
> Then why not have the same host admin just plain mount it when setting the
> container up and be done with that?  From the host namespace, before spawning
> the docker instance or whatever framework you are using.  IDGI...

fwiw one example use case is building a livecd or vm image from inside
container, on a system where each piece of functionality is
compartmentalized in a separate container.

For specific programs we can engineer them to call out to a helper
in the init user_ns, but that doesn't work for existing tools.

James Bottomley a year or two ago had mentioned the idea of using
seccomp to have the mount syscall in a container trap into a
init_user_ns helper, but we'd have to ptrace the whole container
for its whole lifetime to do that, or use SECCOMP_RET_TRAP with
a LD_PRELOAD that does goes through a proxy to do the remote
request (which becomes infeasible bc LD_PRELOAD won't stick).

If we did enable anything but FUSE I would hope each fs would have
a separate sysctl to enable non-init-userns mounts.  Then the admin
could enable them just as they do the automount of whatever garbage
is on a usb stick found lying on the trade floor.

-serge
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[PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 17:50 +0100
  [PATCH v3 1/7] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 17:50 +0100
  [PATCH v3 2/7] block_dev: Check permissions towards block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 17:50 +0100
  [PATCH v3 3/7] mtd: Check permissions towards mtd block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 17:50 +0100
  Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-17 18:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 18:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2015-11-17 18:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-17 19:00 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 19:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 20:20 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Octavian Purdila <octavian.purdila@intel.com> - 2015-11-17 20:30 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-17 21:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Octavian Purdila <octavian.purdila@intel.com> - 2015-11-17 23:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-19 16:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Octavian Purdila <octavian.purdila@intel.com> - 2015-11-19 17:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-19 17:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2015-11-20 18:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-17 20:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 20:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2015-11-18 20:20 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-18 20:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2015-11-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 20:10 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 20:20 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 22:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 22:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 13:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-18 15:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-18 16:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-18 16:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-18 16:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> - 2015-11-19 08:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-19 09:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2015-11-19 15:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-19 16:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org> - 2015-11-19 15:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-19 15:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com> - 2015-11-19 16:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2015-11-19 16:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Nikolay Borisov <kernel@kyup.com> - 2015-11-18 16:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-17 20:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 21:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-11-17 22:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-17 23:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 13:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> - 2015-11-18 15:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields) - 2015-11-18 19:50 +0100

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