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Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy

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On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:47:04AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 10/25/2015 11:41 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:33:32AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >> Hm, that's weird - all our sched_*() system call APIs that set task scheduling 
> >> priorities are fundamentally per thread, not per process. Same goes for the old 
> >> sys_nice() interface. The scheduler has no real notion of 'process', and certainly 
> >> not at the system call level.
> >>
> > 
> > I suspect the main issue is that the games programmers were trying to
> > access it via libc / pthreads, which hides a lot of the power
> > available at the raw syscall level.  This is probably more of a
> > "tutorial needed for userspace programmers" issue, at a guess.
> 
> If this refers to the lack of exposure of thread IDs in glibc, we are
> willing to change that on glibc side.  The discussion has progressed to
> the point where it is now about the question whether it should be part
> of the GNU API (like sched_setaffinity), or live in glibc as a
> Linux-specific extension (like sched_getcpu).  More input is certainly
> welcome.

Well, I was thinking we could just teach them to use
"syscall(SYS_gettid)".

On a different subject, I'm going to start telling people to use
"syscall(SYS_getrandom)", since I think that's going to be easier than
having asking people to change their Makefiles to link against some
Linux-specific library, but that's a different debate, and I recognize
the glibc folks aren't willing to bend on that one.

Cheers,

					- Ted
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Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2015-10-24 00:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 06:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2015-10-25 03:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 04:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2015-10-27 04:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 06:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2015-10-27 06:50 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 07:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2015-10-27 07:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 07:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-25 05:00 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-10-25 10:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2015-10-25 11:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> - 2015-10-25 11:50 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2015-10-25 13:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> - 2015-10-25 14:20 +0100
                Getrandom wrapper Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2015-10-25 14:50 +0100
                Re: Getrandom wrapper Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> - 2015-10-26 14:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified  hierarchy Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-10-26 15:20 +0100

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