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Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled

From Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled
Date 2016-01-26 08:40 +0100
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Quoting Kees Cook (keescook@chromium.org):
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Eric W. Biederman
> > So I have concerns about both efficacy and usability with the proposed
> > sysctl.
> 
> Two distros already have this sysctl because it was so strongly
> requested by their users. This needs to be upstream so we can manage
> the effects correctly.

Which two distros?  Was it in fact requested by their users?

My opinion remains that long-term this is a bad thing.  If we're going to
have this upstream, it should be clearly marked so as to be easily
removable at some point down the road.  Userspace that cannot count on a
feature (in the best case) won't use it or (much worse) will fall back
to broken behavior in one case or the other.

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[PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled  Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-22 23:40 +0100
  [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-22 23:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-23 04:30 +0100
      Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of  proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-01-23 23:30 +0100
        Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-24 02:40 +0100
          Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of  proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 02:50 +0100
            Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of  proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-01-24 03:00 +0100
              Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-24 07:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of  proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-01-24 07:40 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: expand use of proc_dointvec_minmax_sysadmin ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-24 08:00 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2016-01-22 23:50 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-23 04:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-24 22:00 +0100
      Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER  to be disabled Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2016-01-26 08:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-01-24 23:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-25 20:00 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-25 21:00 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-25 23:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-01-26 00:40 +0100
            Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER  to be disabled Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 03:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-26 06:10 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> - 2016-01-26 15:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 15:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> - 2016-01-26 16:00 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER  to be disabled Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2016-01-26 18:30 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> - 2016-01-26 21:00 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER  to be disabled Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2016-01-26 18:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-01-26 19:30 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:50 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-27 00:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-27 00:20 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2016-01-27 11:50 +0100
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 13:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-26 17:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-25 20:00 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-01-25 20:00 +0100

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