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Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers

From One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers
Date 2016-01-24 18:10 +0100
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> > That changes some of the goals the memory management subsystem has,
> > from "use all the resources effectively" to "use as few resources as
> > necessary, in case the host needs the memory for something else".

Also "and take guidance/provide telemetry" - because you want to tune the
VM behaviours based upon policy and to learn from them for when you re-run
that container.

> Beyond memory consumption, I would be interested whether we can harden the kernel by the paravirt interfaces for memory protection in VMs (if any). For example, the hypervisor could write-protect part of the page tables or kernel data structures in VMs, and does it help?

There are four behaviours I can think of, some of which you see in
various hypervisors and security hardening systems

- die on write (a write here causes a security trap and termination after
  the guest has marked the page range die on write, and it cannot be
  unmarked). The guest OS at boot can for example mark all it's code as
  die-on-write.
- irrevocably read only (VM never allows page to be rewritten by guest
  after the guest marks the page range irrevocably r/o)
- asynchronous faulting (pages the guest thinks are in it's memory but
  are in fact on the hosts swap cause a subscribable fault in the guest
  so that it can (where possible) be context switched
- free if needed - marking pages as freed up and either you get a page
  back as it was or a fault and a zeroed page

Alan

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[LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-01-22 17:00 +0100
  Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-01-22 17:10 +0100
  Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> - 2016-01-22 18:20 +0100
    Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com> - 2016-01-27 16:50 +0100
      Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> - 2016-01-27 19:50 +0100
  Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com> - 2016-01-24 00:50 +0100
    Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 18:10 +0100
      Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] VM containers Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-01-25 18:30 +0100

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