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Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled

From Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled
Date 2016-01-23 02:10 +0100
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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 15:00 -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Robert Święcki <robert@swiecki.net> wrote:
> > 2016-01-22 23:50 GMT+01:00 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>:
> > 
> > > > Seems that Debian and some older Ubuntu versions are already using
> > > > 
> > > > $ sysctl -a | grep usern
> > > > kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone = 0
> > > > 
> > > > Shall we be consistent wit it?
> > > 
> > > Oh! I didn't see that on systems I checked. On which version did you find that?
> > 
> > $ uname -a
> > Linux bc1 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.3.3-5~bpo8+1
> > (2016-01-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > $ cat /etc/debian_version
> > 8.2
> 
> Ah-ha, Debian only, though it looks like this was just committed to
> the Ubuntu kernel tree too:
> 
> 
> > IIRC some older kernels delivered with Ubuntu Precise were also using
> > it (but maybe I'm mistaken)
> 
> I don't see it there.
> 
> I think my patch is more complete, but I'm happy to change the name if
> this sysctl has already started to enter the global consciousness. ;)
> 
> Serge, Ben, what do you think?

I agree that using the '_restrict' suffix for new restrictions makes
sense.  I also don't think that a third possible value for
kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone would would be understandable.

I would probably make kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone a wrapper for
kernel.userns_restrict in Debian, then deprecate and eventually remove
it.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
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                                                               - John Lennon

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[PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-22 23:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Robert Święcki <robert@swiecki.net> - 2016-01-22 23:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Robert Święcki <robert@swiecki.net> - 2016-01-23 00:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-23 00:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2016-01-23 01:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2016-01-23 01:50 +0100
        Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER  to be disabled Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-01-23 02:10 +0100
          Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-24 22:00 +0100
            Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-01-24 23:30 +0100
              Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to  be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-25 20:00 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: allow CLONE_NEWUSER to be disabled Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-01-23 00:00 +0100

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