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Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability

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Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 05:19:13PM -0500, Vince Weaver wrote:
>> 
>> So I think this might be revisiting an issue that has come up before, but
>> we're having backward compatability issues with PAPI and libpfm4 and
>> the perf_event_open() system call.
>> 
>> If a user specifies exclude_guest=1 on an older kernel that doesn't 
>> support it, we get the awesome EINVAL error return code and it often
>> takes hours to track down the cause.
>> 
>> Now in theory the ABI is maintained via the "size" field.  So you can
>> figure out the size of the attr struct by setting an invalid size
>> and then getting E2BIG with size set to the value the kernel expects.
>> 		
>> This doesn't help with exclude_guest though, as that's in the giant union
>> in the middle of the attr, and there's absolutely no mechanism at all
>> to tell when that has been extended.
>> 
>> Is there any solution to all of this, except having to carry around a big 
>> table of kernel version numbers for when features were added?
>
> The perf tool does a probe thing where it will, in reverse order of
> feature addition remove flags.
>
> The advantage of the dynamic probing is that it will work with franken
> kernels that have bits backported; where relying on the kernel version
> number is pointless.
>
> But yes, this is all somewhat fugly.
>
>> Ideally we would somehow want E2BIG returned plus the size of __reserved_1 
>> if the value of __reserved_1 is not zero.  I suppose at this point in the 
>> game it's too late for this to be much help and we're going to have to
>> work around the problem forever anyway.
>
> Right :/ So I was hoping some of that extended error reporting stuff
> from Alexander Shishkin would help out with this. Not sure where that
> stranded -- I think in the attempt to make it too generic or so.

Yep. I can respin it back into perf-specific shape, so do we still want
it?

Regards,
--
Alex

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perf_event_open() ABI compatability Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu> - 2016-01-04 23:20 +0100
  Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-01-05 10:10 +0100
    Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com> - 2016-01-11 11:40 +0100
      Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-01-11 12:30 +0100

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