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Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:51:32PM -0800, Rajat Jain wrote:
>> Thanks Greg and Al for the quick turnaround.
>>
>> Essentially I have a device that supports something called "contexts"
>> that can be "created" and "destroyed" during the life of the device. I
>> want to expose some debug files for the context when it is created,
>> and destroy the files when the context is destroyed. However, I'm not
>> sure how do I ensure that the user is not in the middle of reading /
>> writing / mmaping to those files. Also how do I know that user is
>> still not holding a reference to the file structure.
>
> You don't.
>
>> It seems like debugfs is currently not a good choice for this? Would
>> you recommend me to any other fs or subsystem that I should use for
>> this?
>
> What exactly do you need to export to userspace and for what purpose?
> For debugging-only stuff, sure, use debugfs, but don't rely on it for
> any "real" tools, only your own debugging.

I'm actually writing a driver that would expose a "dummy device" to a
real driver. The dummy driver relies on user space to feed in the
device attributes (no of supported contexts etc). I am now thinking
that a character device interface to user space may actually be a
better choice. Question: Does cdev_del() ensure that all references to
the file are dropped before it returns?

Thanks,

Rajat

>
>> Would hanging those files under the sysfs node for the device sound
>> any better (by representing each "context" using an embedded kobject)?
>
> That would ensure that things work properly.  But you don't need a whole
> kobject, just use a named group and a subdir will be created properly
> for you.
>
> good luck,
>
> greg k-h
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debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 21:30 +0100
  Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-12-28 21:40 +0100
  Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com> - 2015-12-28 21:40 +0100
    Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com> - 2015-12-28 22:00 +0100
      Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com> - 2015-12-28 22:20 +0100
      Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 22:20 +0100
    Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 22:00 +0100
  Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 21:50 +0100
    Re: debugfs_remove_recursive() while a file is in use by userspace Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 22:00 +0100

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