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Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace.

From Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace.
Date 2015-12-21 01:10 +0100
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On 2015/12/20 18:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:
> 
>> On 12/20/2015 10:37 AM, Al Viro wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:14:29AM +0800, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2015 07:23 PM, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>       We are working on making core dump behaviour isolated in
>>>>> container. But the problem is, the /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>>> is a kernel wide setting, not belongs to a container.
>>>>>
>>>>>       So we want to add core_pattern into mnt namespace. What
>>>>> do you think about it?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>> 	I found your patch about "net: Implement the per network namespace
>>>> sysctl infrastructure", I want to do the similar thing
>>>> in mnt namespace. Is that suggested way?
>>>
>>> Why mnt namespace and not something else?
>>
>> Hi Al,
>>
>> Well, because core_pattern indicates the path to store core file.
>> In different mnt namespace, we would like to change the path with
>> different value.
>>
>> In addition, Let's considering other namespaces:
>> UTS ns: contains informations of kernel and arch, not proper for core_pattern.
>> IPC ns: communication informations, not proper for core_pattern
>> PID ns: core_pattern is not related with pid
>> net ns: obviousely no.
>> user ns: not proper too.
>>
>> Then I believe it's better to do this in mnt namespace. of course,
>> core_pattern is just one example. After this infrastructure finished,
>> we can implement more sysctls as per-mnt if necessary, I think.
>>
>> Al, what do you think about this idea?
> 
> The hard part is not the sysctl.  The hard part is starting the usermode
> helper, in an environment that it can deal with.  The mount namespace
> really provides you with no help there.
> 
Let me ask. I think user-mode-helper shouldn be found in container's namespace.
Or Do you mean running user-mode-helper out of a container ?

I think if a user need to send cores to outside of a container, a file descriptor
or a network end point should be able to be passed to sysctl. 

Thanks,
-Kame



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[Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-17 12:40 +0100
  Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-20 03:30 +0100
    Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2015-12-20 03:40 +0100
      Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-20 04:00 +0100
        Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2015-12-20 11:00 +0100
          Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-21 01:10 +0100
          Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-21 07:30 +0100
            Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2015-12-21 23:10 +0100
              Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-22 04:20 +0100
                Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-23 04:30 +0100
              Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-12-23 04:30 +0100
                Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace. ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2015-12-23 18:00 +0100

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