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Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid

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Quoting Stéphane Graber (stgraber@ubuntu.com):
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 06:01:38PM +0300, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> > On 15.09.2015 17:27, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > >Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> writes:
> > >
> > >>pid_t getvpid(pid_t pid, pid_t source, pid_t target);
> > >>
> > >>This syscall converts pid from one pid-ns into pid in another pid-ns:
> > >>it takes @pid in namespace of @source task (zero for current) and
> > >>returns related pid in namespace of @target task (zero for current too).
> > >>If pid is unreachable from target pid-ns then it returns zero.
> > >
> > >This interface as presented is inherently racy.  It would be better
> > >if source and target were file descriptors referring to the namespaces
> > >you wish to translate between.
> > 
> > Yep, it's racy. As well as any operation with non-child pids.
> > With file descriptors for source/target result will be racy anyway.
> > 
> > >
> > >>Such conversion is required for interaction between processes from
> > >>different pid-namespaces. For example when system service talks with
> > >>client from isolated container via socket about task in container:
> > >
> > >Sockets are already supported.  At least the metadata of sockets is.
> > >
> > >Maybe we need this but I am not convinced of it's utility.
> > >
> > >What are you trying to do that motivates this?
> > 
> > I'm working on hierarchical container management system which
> > allows to create and control nested sub-containers from containers
> > ( https://github.com/yandex/porto ). Main server works in host and
> > have to interact with all levels of nested namespaces. This syscall
> > makes some operations much easier: server must remember only pid in
> > host pid namespace and convert it into right vpid on demand.
> 
> Note that as Eric said earlier, sending a PID inside a ucred through a
> unix socket will have the pid translated.
> 
> So while your solution certainly should be faster, you can already achieve
> what you want today by doing:
> 
> == Translate PID in container to PID in host
>  - open a socket
>  - setns to container's pidns
>  - send ucred from that container containing the requested container PID
>  - host sees the host PID
> 
> == Translate PID on host to PID in container
>  - open a socket
>  - setns to container's pidns
>  - send ucred from the host containing the request host PID
>    (send will fail if the host PID isn't part of that container)
>  - container sees the container PID

In addition, since commit e4bc332451 : /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
we now also have 'NSpid' etc in /proc/$$/status.

-serge
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[PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2015-09-15 14:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-09-15 16:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2015-09-15 16:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2015-09-15 17:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Stéphane Graber <stgraber@ubuntu.com> - 2015-09-15 17:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2015-09-15 18:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> - 2015-09-15 19:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2015-09-16 09:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2015-09-16 16:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2015-09-16 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2015-09-16 18:40 +0200
                Re: Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Chen Fan <chen.fan.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> - 2015-09-21 05:00 +0200
                Re: Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2015-09-21 16:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH RFC] pidns: introduce syscall getvpid Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2015-09-22 09:50 +0200

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