Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters

From	Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date	2015-09-10 14:10 +0200
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El 10/09/15 a les 13.48, Julien Grall ha escrit:
> On 10/09/15 12:32, Andrew Turner wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 16:41:56 +0800
>> Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>
>>>
>>> These EFI stub parameters are used to internal communication between
>>> EFI stub and Linux kernel and EFI stub creates these parameters. But
>>> for Xen on ARM when booting with UEFI, Xen will create a minimal DT
>>> providing these parameters for Dom0 and Dom0 is not only Linux
>>> kernel, but also other OS (such as FreeBSD) which will be used in the
>>> future. So here we plan to standardize the names by dropping the
>>> prefix "linux," and make them common to other OS. Also this will not
>>> break the compatibility since these parameters are used to internal
>>> communication between EFI stub and kernel.
>>
>> It is unlikely FreeBSD will use this property when booting ad Xen dom0.
>> The kernel expects to be passed a data structure to find boot this
>> information.
>>
>> My preference would be to have the FreeBSD loader load the xen binary,
>> the FreeBSD kernel, and set up these data structs before passing
>> control to Xen, with the information it needs to boot the kernel. My
>> understanding is this is how it is done on x86.
> 
> Well, AFAICT, there is no FreeBSD specific code in Xen for x86. We are
> faking a multiboot module which contains all the informations.
> 
> I know that the bootloader is at least involved, I don't remember if
> there is some code in FreeBSD to read this boot module. I've CCed Roger
> to confirm.

The metadata/modules needed by the FreeBSD Dom0 kernel is generated by
the native FreeBSD bootloader (as would be done when booting bare
metal). Then this blob is passed as a multiboot module in the same place
that Linux puts it's initramfs. Xen simply copies this blob straight
into guest memory and sets start_info.mod_start to point to the start
memory address of this blob.

I've done it this way because I don't see many other options. Xen is
tailored for Linux and only allows passing one module to the Dom0 kernel
(initramfs). For FreeBSD it would be good to be able to pass at least
two modules to the Dom0 kernel, one containing the metadata, and the
other one containing the modules themselves. The new PVH work (HVMlite
or whatever) will hopefully allow passing more than one module to the
Dom0 kernel, and should make the code in the FreeBSD loader simpler.

Roger.

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[PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> - 2015-09-10 11:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 12:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 12:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 13:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 13:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 14:20 +0200
            Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of  EFI stub parameters Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 15:00 +0200
              Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names  of EFI stub parameters "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2015-09-10 15:10 +0200
                Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of  EFI stub parameters Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 15:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 16:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org> - 2015-09-10 16:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 16:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 18:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 18:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> - 2015-09-11 14:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-11 15:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2015-09-11 15:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> - 2015-09-11 17:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> - 2015-09-14 11:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2015-09-14 11:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> - 2015-09-14 11:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2015-09-14 11:40 +0200
                Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names  of EFI stub parameters "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2015-09-14 12:40 +0200
                Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI  stub parameters Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2015-09-14 13:20 +0200
                Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names  of EFI stub parameters "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2015-09-14 13:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-11 18:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-11 18:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> - 2015-09-12 13:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-14 11:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> - 2015-09-14 11:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> - 2015-09-14 14:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com> - 2015-09-11 13:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2015-09-10 15:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-10 17:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2015-09-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2015-09-11 18:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Andrew Turner <andrew@fubar.geek.nz> - 2015-09-10 13:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 13:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub  parameters Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 14:10 +0200
        Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of  EFI stub parameters Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com> - 2015-09-10 15:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> - 2015-09-17 14:00 +0200

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