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Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification

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On 08/27, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> @@ -2031,6 +2031,9 @@ something up.  The barrier occurs before the task state is cleared, and so sits
>  	    <general barrier>		  STORE current->state
>  	LOAD event_indicated
>
> +Please note that wake_up_process is an exception here because it implies
> +the write memory barrier unconditionally.
> +

I simply can't understand (can't even parse) this part of memory-barriers.txt.

> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -1967,8 +1967,7 @@ static void try_to_wake_up_local(struct task_struct *p)
>   *
>   * Return: 1 if the process was woken up, 0 if it was already running.
>   *
> - * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier before
> - * changing the task state if and only if any tasks are woken up.
> + * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier.
>   */

I won't argue, technically this is correct of course. And I agree that
the old comment is misleading.



But the new comment looks as if it is fine to avoid wmb() if you do
wake_up_process(). Say,

	void w(void)
	{
		A = 1;
		wake_up_process(something_unrelated);
		// we know that it implies wmb().
		B = 1;
	}

	void r(void)
	{
		int a, b;

		b = B;
		rmb();
		a = A;

		BUG_ON(b && !a);
	}

Perhaps this part of the comment should be simply removed, the unconditional
wmb() in ttwu() is just implementation detail. And note that initially the
documented behaviour of smp_mb__before_spinlock() was only the STORE - LOAD
serialization. Then people noticed that it actually does wmb() and started
to rely on this fact.

To me, this comment should just explain that this function implies a barrier
but only in a sense that you do not need another one after CONDITION = T and
before wake_up_process().

Oleg.

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wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2015-08-27 14:30 +0200
  Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-08-27 14:50 +0200
    Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2015-08-27 15:20 +0200
      Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-08-27 20:30 +0200
        Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2015-08-28 17:00 +0200
          Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-08-28 18:10 +0200
            Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:30 +0200
              Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-08-29 16:40 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 02:40 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-08-31 20:40 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-08-31 22:50 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 05:50 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-09-01 06:10 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-09-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 17:00 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-09-01 18:50 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 03:20 +0200
                Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> - 2015-09-01 11:50 +0200

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