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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones

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On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 02:48:05PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> This series contains some highly experimental patches that allow normal
> grace periods to take advantage of the work done by concurrent expedited
> grace periods.  This can reduce the overhead incurred by normal grace
> periods by eliminating the need for force-quiescent-state scans that
> would otherwise have happened after the expedited grace period completed.
> It is not clear whether this is a useful tradeoff.  Nevertheless, this
> series contains the following patches:

While it makes sense to avoid unnecessarily delaying a normal grace
period if the expedited machinery has provided the necessary delay, I'm
also *deeply* concerned that this will create a new class of
nondeterministic performance issues.  Something that uses RCU may
perform badly due to grace period latency, but then suddenly start
performing well because an unrelated task starts hammering expedited
grace periods.  This seems particularly likely during boot, for
instance, where RCU grace periods can be a significant component of boot
time (when you're trying to boot to userspace in small fractions of a
second).

- Josh Triplett
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[PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging  normal ones "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-06-30 23:50 +0200
  [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/5] rcu: Limit expedited helping to every 10 ms or every 4th GP "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-06-30 23:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/5] rcu: Limit expedited helping to  every 10 ms or every 4th GP Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> - 2015-07-01 00:00 +0200
  [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/5] rcu: Prepare for expedited GP driving normal GP "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-06-30 23:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods  encouraging normal ones josh@joshtriplett.org - 2015-07-01 00:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging  normal ones Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2015-07-01 02:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods  encouraging normal ones josh@joshtriplett.org - 2015-07-01 23:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging  normal ones "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-07-01 23:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods  encouraging normal ones Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 03:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods  encouraging normal ones josh@joshtriplett.org - 2015-07-02 03:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods  encouraging normal ones Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 04:10 +0200

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