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Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io

From	Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.vote
Subject	Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io
Date	2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
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On 16082 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote:

> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the 
> body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> is a statement which I believe Debian as a project, and not just 
> individual
> Debian developers, should consider signing on to.

> This is a proposal for Debian to sign on to the statement, by adopting 
> the
> text from that open letter via GR.

Seconded.

>
> ==== Text of GR ====
>
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF seen at
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md. 
> The text of this statement is given below.
>
> Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous 
> force in
> the free software community for a long time.  He has shown himself to 
> be
> misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations 
> of
> impropriety.  These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free 
> software,
> digital rights, and tech communities.  With his recent reinstatement 
> to the
> Board of Directors of the Free Software Foundation, we call for the 
> entire
> Board of the FSF to step down and for RMS to be removed from all 
> leadership
> positions.
>
> We, the undersigned, believe in the necessity of digital autonomy and 
> the
> powerful role user freedom plays in protecting our fundamental human 
> rights. 
> In order to realize the promise of everything software freedom makes
> possible, there must be radical change within the community.  We 
> believe in
> a present and a future where all technology empowers – not oppresses –
> people.  We know that this is only possible in a world where 
> technology is
> built to pay respect to our rights at its most foundational levels. 
> While
> these ideas have been popularized in some form by Richard M. Stallman, 
> he
> does not speak for us.  We do not condone his actions and opinions. 
> We do
> not acknowledge his leadership or the leadership of the Free Software
> Foundation as it stands today.
>
> There has been enough tolerance of RMS’s repugnant ideas and behavior. 
> We
> cannot continue to let one person ruin the meaning of our work.  Our
> communities have no space for people like Richard M. Stallman, and we 
> will
> not continue suffering his behavior, giving him a leadership role, or
> otherwise holding him and his hurtful and dangerous ideology as 
> acceptable.
>
> We are calling for the removal of the entire Board of the Free 
> Software
> Foundation.  These are people who have enabled and empowered RMS for 
> years. 
> They demonstrate this again by permitting him to rejoin the FSF Board. 
> It
> is time for RMS to step back from the free software, tech ethics, 
> digital
> rights, and tech communities, for he cannot provide the leadership we 
> need. 
> We are also calling for Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all
> leadership positions, including the GNU Project.
>
> We urge those in a position to do so to stop supporting the Free 
> Software
> Foundation.  Refuse to contribute to projects related to the FSF and 
> RMS. 
> Do not speak at or attend FSF events, or events that welcome RMS and 
> his
> brand of intolerance.  We ask for contributors to free software 
> projects to
> take a stand against bigotry and hate within their projects.  While 
> doing
> these things, tell these communities and the FSF why.
>
> We have detailed several public incidents of RMS's behavior.  Some of 
> us
> have our own stories about RMS and our interactions with him, things 
> that
> are not captured in email threads or on video.  We hope you will read 
> what
> has been shared and consider the harm that he has done to our 
> community and
> others.
>
> ==== End Text of GR ====
>
> -- 
> Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a 
> Free OS
> Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the 
> world.
> Ubuntu Developer 
> https://www.debian.org/
> slangasek@ubuntu.com 
> vorlon@debian.org

-- 
bye, Joerg

Thread

General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:00 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2021-03-24 22:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Colin Tuckley <colin@tuckley.org> - 2021-03-24 22:30 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Nicolas Dandrimont <olasd@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:30 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:40 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2021-03-24 22:40 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:50 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:50 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Colin Tuckley <colin@tuckley.org> - 2021-03-24 22:50 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 23:10 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2021-03-24 22:40 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-03-25 20:20 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-03-25 20:30 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 22:50 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-03-25 20:20 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io "Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)" <jcc@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 08:30 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-25 18:50 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-25 19:20 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2021-03-25 19:30 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:30 +0100
        Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-26 12:20 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:20 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-25 21:20 +0100
        Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-25 21:40 +0100
        Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 21:40 +0100
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Hilko Bengen <bengen@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 01:40 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2021-03-25 20:30 +0100
  Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Christoph Biedl <debian.axhn@manchmal.in-ulm.de> - 2021-03-27 01:10 +0100
    Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Michael Lustfield <michael@lustfield.net> - 2021-03-28 05:20 +0200
      Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2021-03-28 12:20 +0200
        Re: General resolution: ratify  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io Michael Lustfield <michael@lustfield.net> - 2021-03-28 16:50 +0200

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