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Debian is testing Discourse

Started byReco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
First post2020-04-12 10:50 +0200
Last post2020-04-30 05:10 +0200
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  Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-12 11:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-04-16 13:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:40 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:00 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 16:30 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:20 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:50 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:50 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-15 19:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-15 06:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-15 15:50 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-14 13:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-20 19:20 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 04:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 05:10 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-21 09:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-21 12:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 21:10 +0200
                                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 00:50 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 08:40 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 09:10 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 21:30 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-04-23 23:50 +0200
                                              Contributing to Debian documentation [was: Debian is testing  Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 09:50 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 14:00 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 14:30 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:50 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 21:10 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:30 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:50 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
                                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 21:40 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:20 +0200
                                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-23 11:30 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 19:50 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 10:10 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-24 14:30 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 18:50 +0200
                                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-24 20:20 +0200
                                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 21:20 +0200
                                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-27 16:00 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ngor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 08:20 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-12 14:10 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-12 14:40 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com> - 2020-04-13 07:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2020-04-12 21:20 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-13 03:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 06:40 +0200
            Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
              Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 10:30 +0200
                Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:40 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 11:10 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:00 +0200
                          Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                            Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:20 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 17:40 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:30 +0200
                          Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] soyeomul@doraji.xyz (황병희) - 2020-04-14 05:10 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
              Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:10 +0200
                Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 15:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-04-13 23:30 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-04-14 17:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 18:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 19:10 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 20:10 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 20:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 20:40 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-15 08:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-15 10:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 17:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:10 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 18:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 19:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 20:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 21:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:00 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:40 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:30 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 23:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:00 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-29 20:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-04-29 21:00 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-29 22:10 +0200
                      Postel's principle [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 22:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 02:10 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 22:10 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 02:20 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 02:50 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 03:40 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 04:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 14:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 15:30 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:30 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Glenn Holmer <glenn.holmer@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 16:50 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-23 01:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 21:10 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-30 07:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:30 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-30 05:10 +0200

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#221449 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zVdz4-2IU-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221389

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On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:19:56 -0500
John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:

Hello John,

>Though described as a mailing list manager Sympa has a full Web
>interface that might satisfy email-phobic millennials.

It's not something I'd heard of.  I'll check it out.  Not that I'm in the
market for setting up an ML, or anything.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#221477 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-04-14 09:30 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zVob9-1a0-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221449

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On Lu, 13 apr 20, 20:37:29, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:19:56 -0500
> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> >Though described as a mailing list manager Sympa has a full Web
> >interface that might satisfy email-phobic millennials.
> 
> It's not something I'd heard of.  I'll check it out.  Not that I'm in the
> market for setting up an ML, or anything.

I'm curious about that as well, if anyone is aware of a deployment.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
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#221511 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zVsHL-3Yg-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221477

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:23:36 +0300
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Andrei,

>I'm curious about that as well, if anyone is aware of a deployment.

https://www.sympa.org/users/custom has a list.

Sympa admits to the likelihood that the list may be out of date.
Additionally, many of the MLs of the organisations listed would appear
to be for their internal use, rather than open to the general public.
This based on a rather cursory look.

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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#221375 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zV36I-4w5-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221372
On 2020-04-13, <tomas@tuxteam.de> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>
>>  Why are you doing this?
>>  I have two motivations. First, is moderation. Discourse has built in
>>  tools to allow community moderation on a much better scale than our email
>>  lists.
>
> This one is surprising to me. Why should community moderation be
> easier for discourse?

I don't know what those built-in tools referred to consist of. I do know
that mailing-list/newsgroup moderation has been done and done
effectively (I guess) for many years. It's unfortunate that another
method can't be added without subtracting the method(s) to which we've
all grown accustomed. I do kind of taste the irony of a policy of
moderation that doubtless would have excluded the head honcho, LT,
himself (who eventually was obliged to moderate his very abusive self
out of existence only under the threat of being outed by *The New
Yorker*).  What's good for the goose has not at all been good for the
gander, and being brave to power is so much more convincing than being
anal with the hoi polloi. But that's life in the big city, as Mom used
to say.

> But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-)
>
> (there, I outed myself)
>
> Cheers
> -- t
>

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#221383 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zV5Bw-67X-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221372

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On Apr 13, 2020, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 08:23:40AM -0000, Curt wrote:
> > On 2020-04-13, <tomas@tuxteam.de> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > It is as easy to moderate a mailing list as it is a platform la
> > > discourse. So this isn't a criterion to decide between both.
> > 
> > It is, on the contrary, the *primary* criterion for the proposed change
> > as given by the primary proponent of the change:
> > 
> >  Why are you doing this?
> >  I have two motivations. First, is moderation. Discourse has built in
> >  tools to allow community moderation on a much better scale than our
> >  email lists.
> 
> This one is surprising to me. Why should community moderation be
> easier for discourse?

Probably because it follows the "benevolent dictator" style moderation
similar to web fora / IRC as opposed to the "you're (generally)
responsible for your own moderation" style that is prevalent in Usenet
and mailing lists.

> 
> But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-)

I prefer C over C-post-increment myself :)  (not that I'm any good at
it).



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#221471 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

Fromsoyeomul@doraji.xyz (황병희)
Date2020-04-14 05:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zVk7v-70W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221372
[sorry man it just off message]

<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> ...
> But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-)

Oh tomas! you awesome!
Actually i like C programmer(s) ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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#221481 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zVoXv-1FM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221471

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:07:12PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
> [sorry man it just off message]
> 
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> 
> > ...
> > But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-)
> 
> Oh tomas! you awesome!
> Actually i like C programmer(s) ^^^

Be careful. We are a bit like dinosaurs :-)

Cheers
[1] https://xkcd.com/145/
    (No, there was no ref to this footnote in text)
-- t

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#221387 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-13 15:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zV70B-77O-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221364
tomás writes:
> Please, folks. The subject (mail vs discourse) is thorny enough,
> eliciting strong emotions (myself included).

> Mixing it up with group moderation is going to kill any chance
> of having a productive discussion.

> It is as easy to moderate a mailing list as it is a platform à la
> discourse. So this isn't a criterion to decide between both.

> So please: let's take one thing at a time, will we?

The OP brought up moderation by giving the ease of doing it as a major
reason to switch to Discourse.  This implies an intent to implement it.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221395 — Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

FromReco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
Date2020-04-13 15:50 +0200
SubjectRe: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]
Message-ID<zV7Dk-7ln-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221387
	Hi.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 08:09:02AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> tomás writes:
> > Please, folks. The subject (mail vs discourse) is thorny enough,
> > eliciting strong emotions (myself included).
> 
> > Mixing it up with group moderation is going to kill any chance
> > of having a productive discussion.
> 
> > It is as easy to moderate a mailing list as it is a platform à la
> > discourse. So this isn't a criterion to decide between both.
> 
> > So please: let's take one thing at a time, will we?
> 
> The OP brought up moderation by giving the ease of doing it as a major
> reason to switch to Discourse.  This implies an intent to implement it.

A small nitpick - I'm the OP, and the proposition was made by Neil
McGovern, Debian Developer.

Reco

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#221460

FromTom Dial <tddial@comcast.net>
Date2020-04-13 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<zVeOu-3vU-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221359

On 4/12/20 22:36, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:47:52 -0700
> Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> wrote:
> 
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:39:43 PM PDT John Hasler wrote:
>>> I note that Discourse is not in the Debian archive.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters, but I certainly won't use Discourse and if most
>>> debian-user traffic were to shift to Discourse I would simply stop
>>> subscribing.
>>>
>>> "Ease of moderation" is *not* a plus.
>>
>> +1
>> Observing how zealots have moderated Norbert Preining is a perfect example of how 
>> biased and closed-minded those moderators can be.
> 
> +1
> 
> Moderation seems eminently reasonable on paper, but in practice, my
> experiences with it have been generally bad (stack exchange sites, some
> other mailing lists).

As a fairly regular reader and occasional participant here, I'd like to
offer a comment. This list, and from what I have seen, the laptop and
security lists, do not seem to need moderation. Occasionally a post is a
bit over the top, and as far as I can tell are generally corrected by a
relatively gentle reply or suggestion (e. g., don't top post).

Full disclosure:
1. I am of the older persuasion, and therefore(?) quite happy with email
and the conversational style it promotes.

2. I might be thought biased against moderation, having been unpersoned
by the Editor in Chief ("This account is no longer allowed to
participate on The Register forums"), apparently for asking why he
rejected a post I thought unobjectionable and entirely compliant with
the comments guidelines.

3. I also know nothing about Discourse. Although the remarks so far in
the thread don't particularly make me want to use it, I don't find the
idea entirely abhorrent.

Tom Dial

> 
> Celejar
> 

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#221489

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2020-04-14 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<zVpAf-1TD-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221460
On 2020-04-13, Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> 3. I also know nothing about Discourse. Although the remarks so far in
> the thread don't particularly make me want to use it, I don't find the
> idea entirely abhorrent.

Color me stupid but I mosied over to the test site and couldn't figure
out how to post. Maybe you gotta sign up (that must be it). 

My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy.

  Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have
  to show you any stinking badges!

Some Discourse "badges":

 Higher Love
 Used 50 likes in a day 5 times

 Nice Share
 Shared a post with 25 unique visitors

 Anniversary
 Active member for a year, posted at least once

 Good Reply
 Received 25 likes on a reply

 Nice Topic
 Received 10 likes on a topic

Lord Jesus. Isn't this kind of Pavlovian mind-fuck derived from Facebook
et. al. (I don't participate in any of that, being anti-social and all, 
so I'm unsure).

At any rate, my primary sentiment is one of embarrassment.

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#221508

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<zVsy6-3UO-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221489

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 -0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

Hello Curt,

>Color me stupid but I mosied over to the test site and couldn't figure
>out how to post. Maybe you gotta sign up (that must be it). 

It is just that.

>My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy.

Until you've posted, and your initial post(s) have been proved to be
acceptable (IOW, not offensive, off topic, spam.....), yep.

>Some Discourse "badges":

All very juvenile, I agree.  One doesn't have to 'play' that game,
though.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#221517

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVtXc-4E6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221508
Brad Rogers wrote: 
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 -0000 (UTC)
> Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> >My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy.
> 
> Until you've posted, and your initial post(s) have been proved to be
> acceptable (IOW, not offensive, off topic, spam.....), yep.
> 
> >Some Discourse "badges":
> 
> All very juvenile, I agree.  One doesn't have to 'play' that game,
> though.

There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even
ridiculously meaningless ones, you get behavior that maximizes
those incentives. (Not everybody, not all the time.)

So if Discourse badges and points and reputation scores become
an incentive -- imaginary internet points -- people will do the
things that get them the points.

-dsr-

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#221522

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<zVuzU-57g-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221517
On 4/14/20 6:38 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Brad Rogers wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:58:12 -0000 (UTC)
>> Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> My current Trust Level: Totally Untrustworthy.
>> Until you've posted, and your initial post(s) have been proved to be
>> acceptable (IOW, not offensive, off topic, spam.....), yep.
>>
>>> Some Discourse "badges":
>> All very juvenile, I agree.  One doesn't have to 'play' that game,
>> though.
> There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even
> ridiculously meaningless ones, you get behavior that maximizes
> those incentives. (Not everybody, not all the time.)
can that "feature" be removed?
>
> So if Discourse badges and points and reputation scores become
> an incentive -- imaginary internet points -- people will do the
> things that get them the points.
>
> -dsr-
>
>

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#221529

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
Message-ID<zVvcB-5lr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 06:54:19 -0700
Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> wrote:

Hello Peter,

>can that "feature" be removed?

Only by lobotomising/killing the person.

Oh, you mean at discourse?   :-)

Apparently not.  :-(

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's becoming an obsession
Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods

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#221536

FromCarl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
Date2020-04-14 17:30 +0200
Message-ID<zVvFD-5KV-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221529
On 4/14/20 10:28 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 06:54:19 -0700
> Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>> can that "feature" be removed?
> Only by lobotomising/killing the person.
>
> Oh, you mean at discourse?   :-)
>
> Apparently not.  :-(

Actually, since Discourse is Open Source, yes, it can.

Not necessarily easily, but it can.

-- 
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#221541

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVwLn-6nI-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221536

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:25:59 -0400
Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:

Hello Carl,

>Actually, since Discourse is Open Source, yes, it can.
>Not necessarily easily, but it can.

Point taken, *but*.....
<pedant>
...it wouldn't be Discourse
</pedant>
It'd be a discourse variant, a fork, that somebody would have to host
elsewhere.  Which could defeat one of the purposes(1), potentially, of
moving certain Debian lists to Discourse.

(1)  Assuming, that is, one of the purposes is to lighten the load on
Debian's already overworked servers.  Nothing I've read indicates that
is part of the aim, though.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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What A Waste - Ian Dury And The Blockheads

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#221544

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-14 19:10 +0200
Message-ID<zVxeq-6NS-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221541
Brad writes: 
> ...it wouldn't be Discourse. It'd be a discourse variant,

The patch adding the ability to disable the features in question would
be sent upstream, of course.

> It'd be a discourse variant, a fork, that somebody would have to host
> elsewhere.  Which could defeat one of the purposes(1), potentially, of
> moving certain Debian lists to Discourse.

Surely the Discourse server would be under direct Debian control.  I was
not aware that Debian's servers were overworked.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221550

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<zVyau-7o6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221544

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:01:44 -0500
John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:

Hello John,

>Surely the Discourse server would be under direct Debian control.  I was

TBH, I 'm not certain.  I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar to,
say, google groups.  Of course, if it's software, then yes, it could be
hosted anywhere.

>not aware that Debian's servers were overworked.

I did add that the above possibility was not part of the proposition.

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#221551

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2020-04-14 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<zVyk9-7rs-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221550
Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:01:44 -0500 John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:

>> Surely the Discourse server would be under direct Debian control.  I was

> TBH, I 'm not certain.  I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar
> to, say, google groups.  Of course, if it's software, then yes, it
> could be hosted anywhere.

I think you are thinking about "disqus" here, which is indeed a central
comment hosting service, mostly used in blogs and other online
communities.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

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