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Debian is testing Discourse

Started byReco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
First post2020-04-12 10:50 +0200
Last post2020-04-30 05:10 +0200
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  Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-12 11:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-04-16 13:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:40 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:00 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 16:30 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:20 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:50 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:50 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-15 19:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-15 06:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-15 15:50 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-14 13:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-20 19:20 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 04:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 05:10 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-21 09:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-21 12:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 21:10 +0200
                                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 00:50 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 08:40 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 09:10 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 21:30 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-04-23 23:50 +0200
                                              Contributing to Debian documentation [was: Debian is testing  Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 09:50 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 14:00 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 14:30 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:50 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 21:10 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:30 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:50 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
                                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 21:40 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:20 +0200
                                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-23 11:30 +0200
                                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 19:50 +0200
                                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 10:10 +0200
                                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-24 14:30 +0200
                                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 18:50 +0200
                                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-24 20:20 +0200
                                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 21:20 +0200
                                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-27 16:00 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ngor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 08:20 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-12 14:10 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-12 14:40 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com> - 2020-04-13 07:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2020-04-12 21:20 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-13 03:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 06:40 +0200
            Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
              Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 10:30 +0200
                Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:40 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 11:10 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:00 +0200
                          Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                            Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:20 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 17:40 +0200
                      Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                        Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:30 +0200
                          Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
                  Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] soyeomul@doraji.xyz (황병희) - 2020-04-14 05:10 +0200
                    Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
              Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:10 +0200
                Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 15:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-04-13 23:30 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-04-14 17:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 18:40 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 19:10 +0200
                              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 20:10 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 20:20 +0200
                                Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 20:40 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-15 08:20 +0200
                                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-15 10:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:30 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 17:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:10 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 18:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 19:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 20:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 21:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:00 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:40 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:30 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 23:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:00 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-29 20:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-04-29 21:00 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-29 22:10 +0200
                      Postel's principle [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 22:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 02:10 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 22:10 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 02:20 +0200
                  Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 02:50 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 03:40 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 04:00 +0200
                    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
                      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
                        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 14:30 +0200
                          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 15:30 +0200
                            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
              Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
                Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:30 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Glenn Holmer <glenn.holmer@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 16:50 +0200
    Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-23 01:50 +0200
      Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:10 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:20 +0200
          Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 21:10 +0200
            Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-30 07:20 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:30 +0200
        Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-30 05:10 +0200

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#221552

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-14 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVyDw-7xZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221550
Brad writes:
> I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar to, say, google groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_(software)

The company behind it offers such a service.  I would be appalled if
Debian made use of it.


-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221567

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-15 08:20 +0200
Message-ID<zVJyW-63Z-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221552

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:34:30 -0500
John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:

Hello John,

>The company behind it offers such a service.  I would be appalled if
>Debian made use of it.

TBH, if Debian wish to offload some of the 'grunt work'  I'd have no
issue with that.  Of course, the supplier's ToS would have to be
suitable.  Probably difficult to achieve.

As Sven suggested, I may have been muddling things up somewhat with
disqus.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It belongs to them, let's give it back
Beds Are Burning - Midnight Oil

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#221570

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-04-15 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<zVL7H-6Rj-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221552

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On Ma, 14 apr 20, 13:34:30, John Hasler wrote:
> Brad writes:
> > I /thought/ Discourse was a service similar to, say, google groups.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_(software)
> 
> The company behind it offers such a service.  I would be appalled if
> Debian made use of it.

Debian is hosting all its official services and there is no indication 
this is going to change (for any of its official services).

On the other hand I'm guessing most of us are also not donating to 
support Debian with hardware, hosting, etc. so it's not fair for us to 
judge how Debian is providing its free services.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#221531

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
Message-ID<zVvcB-5lr-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221517

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:38:55 -0400
Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:

Hello Dan,

>There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even
{etc.}

Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this
myself, on occasion.

-- 
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#221537

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVvPj-5Oe-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221531
Dan Ritter writes:
>There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even
> {etc.}

Brad writes:
> Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this
> myself, on occasion.

Likewise.
-- 
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jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221538

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVvPj-5Oe-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Ma, 14 apr 20, 10:35:57, John Hasler wrote:
> Dan Ritter writes:
> >There's this general problem: when you place incentives, even
> > {etc.}
> 
> Brad writes:
> > Despite my relative maturity (read: I'm old), I've fallen prey to this
> > myself, on occasion.
> 
> Likewise.

Guilty :)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/linux.debian.user

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#221367

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-04-13 09:30 +0200
Message-ID<zV1HA-3MZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:45:02, Reco wrote:
> 	Dear list,
> 
> [1] came to my attention today. To quote relevant parts:
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html

For those who are not following the discussion on -project here are two, 
from my point of view, excelent messages addressing several concerns 
raised here as well.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00103.html
 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00111.html


Kind regards,
Andrei
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#221369

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
Message-ID<zV2tX-4iB-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Lu, 13 apr 20, 10:09:40, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:24:04AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > For those who are not following the discussion on -project here are two, 
> > from my point of view, excelent messages [...]
> 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00103.html
> >  
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00111.html
> 
> Well, Russ Allbery is one of the most intelligent and even-headed
> folks out there.

+1

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#221370

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
Message-ID<zV2tX-4iB-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:24:04AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

[...]

> For those who are not following the discussion on -project here are two, 
> from my point of view, excelent messages [...]

> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00103.html
>  
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00111.html

Well, Russ Allbery is one of the most intelligent and even-headed
folks out there.

Cheers
-- t

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#221385

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
Message-ID<zV6xz-6Ij-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221370

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:32:56AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2020 13 Apr 03:10 -0500, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > Well, Russ Allbery is one of the most intelligent and even-headed
> > folks out there.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I doubt that Russ reads this list [...]

I wouldn't be so sure.

> [...]  Russ should be made aware that
> Discourse is not some magic software that does not require any learning.

I think that ain't necessary. Russ is no idiot. What he has (and
what many lack, me often too) is the capability to listen to
other opinions.

Cheers
-- t

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#221386

FromNate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us>
Date2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
Message-ID<zV6xz-6Ij-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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* On 2020 13 Apr 03:10 -0500, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> Well, Russ Allbery is one of the most intelligent and even-headed
> folks out there.

Agreed.

I doubt that Russ reads this list and may not be aware of the
experiences of us that have dealt with a project that wholesale replaced
working mailing lists with Discourse.  Russ should be made aware that
Discourse is not some magic software that does not require any learning.
On the contrary, it is different and requires a modern Web browser (how
does the non-GUI user participate since it is noted that an email user
is a distant second-class user?) but as he notes it is a centralized
database that facilitates an amount of control that is lacking with
email lists.  I think that the key to the discussion is that some people
seek greater control over discussions.

If the project wants to implement Discourse as an adjunct to existing
communications channels, fine, I've no problem with that.  If, however,
the goal is arbitrary and wholesale replacement of all lists with the
jumbled mess that is my experience of Discourse, then I object.

- Nate

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#221405

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2020-04-13 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<zV92q-8kG-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221386
On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 07:32:56 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> If the project wants to implement Discourse as an adjunct to existing
> communications channels, fine, I've no problem with that.

Me neither. While preferring email, I am comfortable with web-style
interfaces for some of the user support I indulge in.

>                                                            If, however,
> the goal is arbitrary and wholesale replacement of all lists with the
> jumbled mess that is my experience of Discourse, then I object.

I do not know about "arbitrary", but a reason for -user being "...better
off in Discourse". has not yet been advanced. Anyway, there will be an
evaluation period in which we can see whether newcomers abandon -user and
flock to Discourse without having their arms twisted up their backs. :)

Making communication with newcomers more accessible and taking advantage
of more featureful tooling has been tried before, but without sidelining
-user. Coincidentally, the prime mover was also a DPL. See

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/09/msg00123.html

My recollection is that the initiative never really attracted sufficient
support. The site has since been put out of its misery.

-- 
Brian.

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#221417

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2020-04-13 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<zV9OO-q1-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221386
Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote:

> If the project wants to implement Discourse as an adjunct to existing
> communications channels, fine, I've no problem with that.  If,
> however, the goal is arbitrary and wholesale replacement of all lists
> with the jumbled mess that is my experience of Discourse, then I
> object.

I see a problem with "another communication" channel here, creating a
rift between the two user bases.

As Russ noted in
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00103.html in 3)
"There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism
one is comfortable with, and reason to believe that younger people
skew towards being more comfortable with forums than with email. [...]"
I fear what will happen is that the younger and possibly more
inexperienced crowd will aggregate in the web-based media, while the
more-knowledgable "grey beards" will stay in their mailling lists.

We already have this with http://forums.debian.net/ and in part
https://reddit.com/r/debian where there sometimes exist a "the helpless being
led by the clueless" situation.

And I've also witnissed this in other contexts, be it in an Enterprise
setup (where one group flocks to Confluence and the other stay in the
mailinglist) or a MMO guild, where one group prefers to converse in
Teamspeak and the other uses the forum.

In all cases it lead to rifts and problems down the line.

As hard as it is, one should commit to *one* communications channel and
only one, as to not create parallel "societies".

Grüße,
Sven.

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#221418

FromMichael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk>
Date2020-04-13 18:20 +0200
Message-ID<zV9Yu-tl-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221417
On 13/04/2020 17:04, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote:
>
>> If the project wants to implement Discourse as an adjunct to existing
>> communications channels, fine, I've no problem with that.  If,
>> however, the goal is arbitrary and wholesale replacement of all lists
>> with the jumbled mess that is my experience of Discourse, then I
>> object.
> I see a problem with "another communication" channel here, creating a
> rift between the two user bases.
>
> As Russ noted in
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00103.html in 3)
> "There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism
> one is comfortable with, and reason to believe that younger people
> skew towards being more comfortable with forums than with email. [...]"
> I fear what will happen is that the younger and possibly more
> inexperienced crowd will aggregate in the web-based media, while the
> more-knowledgable "grey beards" will stay in their mailling lists.
>
> We already have this with http://forums.debian.net/ and in part
> https://reddit.com/r/debian where there sometimes exist a "the helpless being
> led by the clueless" situation.
>
> And I've also witnissed this in other contexts, be it in an Enterprise
> setup (where one group flocks to Confluence and the other stay in the
> mailinglist) or a MMO guild, where one group prefers to converse in
> Teamspeak and the other uses the forum.
>
> In all cases it lead to rifts and problems down the line.
>
> As hard as it is, one should commit to *one* communications channel and
> only one, as to not create parallel "societies".
>
In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have more 
channels open than just one where possible.

-- 
Michael Howard

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#221421

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
Message-ID<zVarw-Dj-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221418
Nate writes:
> And I've also witnissed this in other contexts, be it in an Enterprise
> setup (where one group flocks to Confluence and the other stay in the
> mailinglist) or a MMO guild, where one group prefers to converse in
> Teamspeak and the other uses the forum.

So have I.  It creates two communities that overlap only slightly.
-- 
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jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221424

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2020-04-13 19:00 +0200
Message-ID<zVaBc-GE-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221418
Michael Howard writes:
> In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have more
> channels open than just one where possible.

Not when the channels connect to different pools.
-- 
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jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#221429

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
Message-ID<zVaUx-12R-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221424
John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Michael Howard writes:

>> In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have more
>> channels open than just one where possible.

> Not when the channels connect to different pools.

Exactly my point.

Grüße,
Sven.

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#221431

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<zVbQB-1Cr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221424
Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/04/2020 17:49, John Hasler wrote:
>> Michael Howard writes:

>>> In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have
>>> more channels open than just one where possible.

>> Not when the channels connect to different pools.

> Sorry, which different pools are you refering to?

Different pools of people.

Grüße,
Sven.

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#221436

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2020-04-13 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<zVc9X-1IG-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221431
On 2020-04-13, Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> wrote:
> Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/04/2020 17:49, John Hasler wrote:
>>> Michael Howard writes:
>
>>>> In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have
>>>> more channels open than just one where possible.
>
>>> Not when the channels connect to different pools.
>
>> Sorry, which different pools are you refering to?
>
> Different pools of people.

There could be a channel to connect the pools. Then people could row
from one to the other.

> Grüße,
> Sven.
>


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#221438

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2020-04-13 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<zVcCZ-29w-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#221436
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2020-04-13, Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> wrote:
>> Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/04/2020 17:49, John Hasler wrote:
>>>> Michael Howard writes:

>>>>> In your opinion. Total rubbish in my opinion. Far better to have
>>>>> more channels open than just one where possible.
>>>> Not when the channels connect to different pools.
>>> Sorry, which different pools are you refering to?
>> Different pools of people.

> There could be a channel to connect the pools. Then people could row
> from one to the other.

Sure. 

But to make that as painless as possible you'd need to do quite the feat
on the technical side, creating an interface between the web-focused
frontend and the mail-based frontend, that works without getting in the
way.

All attempts to do so I know of in the end just created a mongrel that
was the worst of both worlds, satisfying nobody.

So please excuse me if I sound a bit overly pessimistic on that front,
looking back at ~30 years of online communications in a range of media.

S!
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