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| Started by | dalios <dalios@eumx.net> |
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| First post | 2020-04-09 20:30 +0200 |
| Last post | 2020-04-12 10:40 +0200 |
| Articles | 8 on this page of 28 — 12 participants |
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New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? dalios <dalios@eumx.net> - 2020-04-09 20:30 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-04-09 20:40 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-09 23:20 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? dalios <dalios@eumx.net> - 2020-04-10 08:30 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-04-10 12:40 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-04-10 14:40 +0200
xpdf woes, was Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-10 17:20 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-11 05:10 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-04-11 11:50 +0200
Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed (was: Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-11 15:10 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed (was: Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-11 15:40 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed (was: Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-11 16:20 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-11 17:30 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-11 21:10 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 01:30 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-11 22:30 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 01:50 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 09:40 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 20:40 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed "007@caiway.net" <007@caiway.net> - 2020-04-12 00:20 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 17:50 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 18:30 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 19:10 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed (was: Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-11 21:20 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-04-12 00:30 +0200
Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 10:40 +0200
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed |
| Message-ID | <zV7jY-7e6-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221206 |
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:21:42 -0500 John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote: > rhkramer writes: > > When I have as few as 10 to 15 tabs open on the Firefox on my Jessie > > system, Firefox crashes (I mentioned in a previous post in this thread > > having a thousand or more tabs "open" in Firefox on Wheezy with > > minimal problems -- yes occasional crashes (maybe once every 2 to 4 > > weeks?), but I couldn't come near that on Jessie, and I expect the > > same problem on Buster. > > What Firefox version? I used to see frequent Firefox crashes > (apparently memory leaks: my system is always up) but that stopped a few > years ago (though the irritation of that has been replaced by the I seem to have memory leaks with recent Firefox (currently 74.0.1-1 from Sid) - memory use goes slowly but steadily up, and eventually gets maxed out and the system grinds to a halt. It takes a while for this to happen, but I find myself eventually needing to kill and restart Firefox. > irritation of being required to create a new profile every time I > upgrade Firefox). Interesting - apparently some people get this, but some don't (I update regularly from the Sid repos, and I don't generally see this). Celejar
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-13 17:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed |
| Message-ID | <zV9vs-8vj-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221392 |
Celejar writes: > I seem to have memory leaks with recent Firefox (currently 74.0.1-1 > from Sid) - memory use goes slowly but steadily up, and eventually > gets maxed out and the system grinds to a halt. It takes a while for > this to happen, but I find myself eventually needing to kill and > restart Firefox. I see this too sometimes. Top tells me which "Web Content" process is gobbling memory: killing it solves the problem (and closes the offending tab). I wrote: > irritation of being required to create a new profile every time I > upgrade Firefox). > Interesting - apparently some people get this, but some don't (I > update regularly from the Sid repos, and I don't generally see this). How often do you upgrade? I often go for months without doing so: that may be why it happens to me. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-13 18:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed |
| Message-ID | <zVa89-wo-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221413 |
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 10:43:29 -0500 John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I seem to have memory leaks with recent Firefox (currently 74.0.1-1 > > from Sid) - memory use goes slowly but steadily up, and eventually > > gets maxed out and the system grinds to a halt. It takes a while for > > this to happen, but I find myself eventually needing to kill and > > restart Firefox. > > I see this too sometimes. Top tells me which "Web Content" process is > gobbling memory: killing it solves the problem (and closes the offending > tab). > > I wrote: > > irritation of being required to create a new profile every time I > > upgrade Firefox). > > > Interesting - apparently some people get this, but some don't (I > > update regularly from the Sid repos, and I don't generally see this). > > How often do you upgrade? I often go for months without doing so: that > may be why it happens to me. I usually upgrade as soon as a new version is available (despite your oft-reiterated suggestion that this sort of thing is really unnecessary ;)) Celejar
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-13 19:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed |
| Message-ID | <zVaKS-Zw-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221419 |
I wrote: > How often do you upgrade? I often go for months without doing so: > that may be why it happens to me. Celejar writes: > I usually upgrade as soon as a new version is available That's probably it. Mozilla probably only want to support automatic profile import one version back. I still don't see why the dialog can't offer the choice of importing some or all of my old profiles right up front. Surely that's what most people (even Windows users) want. However, I'm too lazy to send in a patch... -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed |
| Message-ID | <zVbQC-1Cr-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221426 |
John Hasler wrote: > That's probably it. Mozilla probably only want to support automatic > profile import one version back. I think to recall there was a statement that since version xxx it is default to create a new profile. There is no restriction to one version back.
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-11 21:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Improving performance: RAM or CPU speed (was: Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?) |
| Message-ID | <zUtPA-8gk-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221193 |
rhkramer@gmail.com wrote: > RAM is still (to me) the most cost effective upgrade to an existing > system. yes this is true, but the bottle neck could be the cache or the disk IO. If you have slow disk, RAM can be advantage. If it is the cache, may be it is time to upgrade the system (cpu and/or mainboard). For me personally the most impressive boost was the SSD. I do not have any CPU or RAM hungry applications - except when compiling but this is done on a server, so the desktop is not affected. 8GB RAM is sufficient for the desktop. If I put another 4 or 8 it will consume them with time as well. This is what modern Linux kernel does. It will free memory whenever it needs. But I would not have big addvantage. On the PC I call "the server" I started with 16, but because of running virtualizations I upgraded to 32.
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 00:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUwNr-1Bh-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221188 |
On 2020-04-11 02:45, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-10 at 20:01 -0700, David Christensen wrote: >> My laptop is maxed out at 2 GB. If I open more than a few browser >> windows with heavy JavaScript, the computer slows to a snail's pace. > > Would the amount of RAM affect browser JavaScript performance? Is that > due to JIT compiler results not being able to be cached or something > like that? I've just assumed slow performance it due to CPU throughput. I use Xfce and have installed the CPU Graph and System Load Manager panel plug-ins. I use Firefox and have installed the Privacy Badger, HTTS Everywhere, and NoScript plug-ins. When things get bad, everything is pegged -- both CPU cores at 100%, memory usage at 100%, swap usage at 100%. It took about five minutes to open the context menu and close Firefox. David
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 10:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUGjM-7sO-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221237 |
David Christensen wrote: > I use Xfce and have installed the CPU Graph and System Load Manager > panel plug-ins. I use Firefox and have installed the Privacy Badger, > HTTS Everywhere, and NoScript plug-ins. When things get bad, everything > is pegged -- both CPU cores at 100%, memory usage at 100%, swap usage at > 100%. It took about five minutes to open the context menu and close > Firefox. I installed 63.0.1 from the tar ball downloaded from mozilla.org. I had similar experience with the -esr debian release as described by you. Since I found 63.0.1 is working perfectly well, I do not upgrade. Planing to test next version at some point.
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