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| Started by | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| First post | 2020-04-12 10:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2020-04-30 05:10 +0200 |
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Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 10:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-12 11:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-04-16 13:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 11:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 16:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 16:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-15 19:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-15 06:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-15 15:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-14 13:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-20 19:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 04:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 05:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-21 09:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-21 12:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-21 21:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 00:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 08:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 09:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 21:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-04-23 23:50 +0200
Contributing to Debian documentation [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 09:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-23 14:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-23 14:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 21:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 18:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 21:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-23 11:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-23 19:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-24 10:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-24 14:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 18:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-24 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-24 21:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-04-27 16:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ngor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-21 06:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-21 08:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-12 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-12 14:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Keith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com> - 2020-04-13 07:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-12 17:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2020-04-12 21:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> - 2020-04-12 21:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-04-13 03:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 06:40 +0200
Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 09:20 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 10:30 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:40 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 11:10 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 11:50 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:00 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:20 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 15:30 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 17:40 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:30 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:20 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 11:00 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 13:40 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] soyeomul@doraji.xyz (황병희) - 2020-04-14 05:10 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 15:10 +0200
Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 15:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-04-13 23:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 11:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-14 15:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-04-14 17:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 18:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 19:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 20:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 20:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-15 08:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-15 10:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 17:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 17:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 09:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 10:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-13 14:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 17:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 18:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 18:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 19:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-13 20:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 21:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-04-14 10:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 10:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 21:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-13 22:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 09:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-14 13:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 22:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-13 22:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-04-13 23:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-14 02:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-29 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-04-29 21:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 21:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-29 22:10 +0200
Postel's principle [was: Debian is testing Discourse] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 22:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 02:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-04-30 00:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-05-07 20:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-05-07 22:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 18:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-04-13 19:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 02:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 02:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 03:40 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-14 04:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 12:00 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 14:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-04-14 15:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-14 16:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-13 20:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Glenn Holmer <glenn.holmer@gmail.com> - 2020-04-14 16:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-23 01:50 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 19:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Daniel Barclay <danielbarclay.oss@gmail.com> - 2020-04-29 21:10 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-30 07:20 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-04-29 21:30 +0200
Re: Debian is testing Discourse Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-04-30 05:10 +0200
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 10:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Debian is testing Discourse |
| Message-ID | <zUGts-7wd-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Dear list, [1] came to my attention today. To quote relevant parts: What about the mailing lists? This may or may not be a replacement for any particular list. I suspect there are some thet would benefit greatly from having Discourse be the primary interaction, and other places where this would be less suitable. Be specific! Ok... I think *debian-user*, debian-vote and possibly debian-project would be better off in Discourse. I think debian-devel-announce should stay as an email list (for now). However, I am not suddenly proposing that we shut those lists down. The aim of this exercise is to see if Discourse would work well for us. Email is still important to me! Fine, you can interact with Discorse by email rather than the web interface. It should be noted however, that there is *not 1:1 feature partiy* with email and the web interface, as Discorse does things that can't easily be done with email. For the majority of users though, email interaction should be "good enough". Why are you doing this? I have two motivations. First, is *moderation*. Discourse has built in tools to allow community moderation on a much better scale than our email lists. Secondly, I genuinely believe that ease of access to new contributors is of paramount importance to the project. So, thoughts, options? Reco [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/04/msg00074.html
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUGD7-7zR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221266 |
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:55:26AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > Interesting. > > At least at this point my preference will depend a lot on (the > limitations of) the e-mail interface (didn't look into that yet). It's second-class, at best. I have to suffer from it in another context. Cheers -- tomás
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| From | Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUH6a-7ZZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221267 |
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:58:19 +0200
<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
Hello tomas@tuxteam.de,
>It's second-class, at best. I have to suffer from it in another context.
Agreed. Another project I'm involved with use Discourse. It has too
many disadvantages to compensate for the advantages it (may?) offer.
Your explanation of the problems (reported elsewhere in the thread) echo
my own feelings.
Also, all those 'goals' they have...
My first message
My first reply
My first message via email
Unless discourse is a game, or the user is five, they're totally
pointless.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
Did you do it for fame, did you do it in a fit?
Identity - X-Ray Spex
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUHpv-86z-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221267 |
tomas@ composed on 2020-04-12 10:58 (UTC+0200) > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:55:26AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Interesting. Not at all. :( >> At least at this point my preference will depend a lot on (the >> limitations of) the e-mail interface (didn't look into that yet). > It's second-class, at best. That's too much. > I have to suffer from it in another context. Mozilla, and others, made that switch in various contexts. I no longer actively participate anywhere that made that switch. I've seen precipitous drops in mailing list post arrivals where the list option has been retained after the switch. Bad as web forums are, I dislike them less than Discourse. Plain text, aka email, is best for reading, since I get to pick the text size and maximize legibility automatically without screen real estate wasted on overabundant whitespace. On mailing lists I get to keep a compact locally searchable archive, and need not futz with scripted motion or zoom or popups or redirects or ads or disappearing points of interest or frustrating web latency. I have yet to see the kernel devs suckered into it, and I truly hope it does not happen here. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-04-16 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zWapr-5Lu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221267 |
On Sunday, 12 Apr 2020 at 10:58, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > It's second-class, at best. I have to suffer from it in another context. third class or worse. we have tried and tested mechanisms (email and usenet), both of which are significantly better. I also have to use it in another context and I hate it. Doesn't work well at all with email despite the claims. don't do it! -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.6 on Debian bullseye/sid
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUGD8-7zR-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221266 |
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:45:02AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Dear list, > > [1] came to my attention today. To quote relevant parts: [...] > Email is still important to me! > Fine, you can interact with Discorse by email rather than the web > interface. It should be noted however, that there is *not 1:1 feature > partiy* with email and the web interface, as Discorse does things that > can't easily be done with email. For the majority of users though, email > interaction should be "good enough". I have the honor to be mail participant in a discourse forum. I don't like it *at all*. It's not that "Discorse does things that > can't easily be done with email" -- this is *framing*. Discourse makes things which were easy by email practically impossible (like, for example, following up something in private). I think I'll follow up there. Thanks for the heads-up, cheers -- tomás
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUGMN-7Sy-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221269 |
Hi. On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:57:05AM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Email is still important to me! > > Fine, you can interact with Discorse by email rather than the web > > interface. It should be noted however, that there is *not 1:1 feature > > partiy* with email and the web interface, as Discorse does things that > > can't easily be done with email. For the majority of users though, email > > interaction should be "good enough". > > I have the honor to be mail participant in a discourse forum. > > I don't like it *at all*. About the biggest gripe I have with the Discourse is its inability to function without Javascript. Even for a simple reading. But I don't participate at forums (fora? whatever) anymore, so I have a limited view here. > It's not that "Discorse does things that > can't easily be done with > email" -- this is *framing*. Discourse makes things which were easy > by email practically impossible (like, for example, following up > something in private). The million euro question here is how actually good (or bad) is that "e-mail interaction with Discourse" is. Reco
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUGWu-7WG-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221271 |
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:03:12PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:57:05AM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Email is still important to me! > > > Fine, you can interact with Discorse by email rather than the web > > > interface [...] "...but we'll make your life miserable for that". > The million euro question here is how actually good (or bad) is that > "e-mail interaction with Discourse" is. It's a subtle thing. As I said, there's no "reply-to". But since the web view is the dominant one, mail users are second-class citizens in every respect. "Everyone else" is seing things the same way (the way the Javascript infested Discourse GUI imposes) except the two stubborns still using a mail interface. That's a difference to a mailing list, where it is normal that there is a multitude of mail user interfaces (in our circles: elsewhere it's Outlook and you can see the damage it causes). I know I will be out here. Cheers -- tomás
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 11:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUH6a-7ZZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221272 |
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:10:22AM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:03:12PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:57:05AM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Email is still important to me! > > > > Fine, you can interact with Discorse by email rather than the web > > > > interface [...] > > "...but we'll make your life miserable for that". Yuck. So, worst case scenario, in several years debian-user will be dead as we know it. That's unsettling, to say the least. Reco
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| From | Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUKQp-1P2-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221272 |
On Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:21:42 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:10:22, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I know I will be out here. > > I seriously doubt this (or any) mailing list will be shut down as long > as there is significant activity (spam and off-topic doesn't count). > > Kind regards, > Andrei debian-user is still available on usenet, although kiddies nowadays seem to not know about it. So there might be hope still. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Paradox: Getting live-updates about fatalities
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUMSe-322-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221290 |
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On Apr 12, 2020, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:21:42 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:10:22, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > I know I will be out here. > > > > I seriously doubt this (or any) mailing list will be shut down as long > > as there is significant activity (spam and off-topic doesn't count). > > > > Kind regards, > > Andrei > debian-user is still available on usenet, although kiddies nowadays > seem to not know about it. So there might be hope still. It is (was) hosted through a usenet / list portal (IIRC, gmane?). I used it for years so I could get everything through slrn; but I started having problems, so went "back" to just email. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUNbz-390-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221326 |
On 2020-04-12, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2020, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> On Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:21:42 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:10:22, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > > I know I will be out here. >> > >> > I seriously doubt this (or any) mailing list will be shut down as long >> > as there is significant activity (spam and off-topic doesn't count). >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > Andrei >> debian-user is still available on usenet, although kiddies nowadays >> seem to not know about it. So there might be hope still. > > It is (was) hosted through a usenet / list portal (IIRC, gmane?). I > used it for years so I could get everything through slrn; but I started > having problems, so went "back" to just email. linux.debian.user is alive; to post you must use a gateway (like gmane). I briefly read and understood that a Discourse plugin (?) allowed for mirroring to a usenet group but only (?) in read-only mode (which might delight those members of the forum who'd love to see me shut my face). :-)
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 15:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUKQp-1P2-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221272 |
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On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:10:22, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I know I will be out here. I seriously doubt this (or any) mailing list will be shut down as long as there is significant activity (spam and off-topic doesn't count). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 15:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUL06-1Ss-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221271 |
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On Du, 12 apr 20, 12:03:12, Reco wrote: > > The million euro question here is how actually good (or bad) is that > "e-mail interaction with Discourse" is. Having a highly e-mail centric community like Debian using it is likely to have a significant impact on its development. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 15:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUL9M-1VT-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221294 |
Hi. On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 04:30:05PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 12 apr 20, 12:03:12, Reco wrote: > > > > The million euro question here is how actually good (or bad) is that > > "e-mail interaction with Discourse" is. > > Having a highly e-mail centric community like Debian using it is likely > to have a significant impact on its development. While I admire your optimistic view on things, there's a thing to consider: 1) The proposition was made by Neil McGovern, who's currently listed as an Executive Director at [1]. 2) GNOME, for the last ten years or so is known for their own, unique approach to the usability and the pursuit of the Modern Desktop™. The end result of this, let's put it lightly, is not to everyone's liking. 3) Summing these two, there's distinct possibility that "e-mail interaciton with Discourse" will be considered UnModern in the not-so-distant future, and we all known how they deal with UnModern in GNOME. Reco [1] https://www.gnome.org/foundation/staff/
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zULWa-2sq-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221301 |
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On Du, 12 apr 20, 16:43:12, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 04:30:05PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Having a highly e-mail centric community like Debian using it is likely > > to have a significant impact on its development. > > While I admire your optimistic view on things, there's a thing to > consider: > > 1) The proposition was made by Neil McGovern, who's currently listed as > an Executive Director at [1]. > > 2) GNOME, for the last ten years or so is known for their own, unique > approach to the usability and the pursuit of the Modern Desktop™. The end > result of this, let's put it lightly, is not to everyone's liking. I'm quite sure the affiliation of *one* Debian Member with a completely different project has very little (if any) relevance for how Discourse will develop in the future. > 3) Summing these two, there's distinct possibility that "e-mail > interaciton with Discourse" will be considered UnModern in the > not-so-distant future, and we all known how they deal with UnModern in > GNOME. Discourse developers may as well decide that on their own, without any kind of relation to GNOME design decisions. In my opinion it's more likely to be a decision based on (perceived) benefits vs. costs (complexity, security, etc.). As this is FLOSS one can always chose to contribute, fork or re-implement. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUMpb-2S8-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221301 |
Reco wrote: > >While I admire your optimistic view on things, there's a thing to >consider: > >1) The proposition was made by Neil McGovern, who's currently listed as >an Executive Director at [1]. > >[1] https://www.gnome.org/foundation/staff/ Neil has also been a Debian developer for over a decade, and was DPL for a year. He understands the project, and is suggesting ways to help engage with more people too. *I'm* not such a fan of discourse myself, but equally mailing lists are also not popular with a lot of people. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.
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| From | Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zULjs-1Zn-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221294 |
Is there a general "war on mailing lists" going on? On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 7:30 AM Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Du, 12 apr 20, 12:03:12, Reco wrote: > > > > The million euro question here is how actually good (or bad) is that > > "e-mail interaction with Discourse" is. > > Having a highly e-mail centric community like Debian using it is likely > to have a significant impact on its development. > > Kind regards, > Andrei > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 16:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zULMu-2p6-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221305 |
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:57:22AM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: > Is there a general "war on mailing lists" going on? I'd say there always has been a "war on mail". Starting with Outlook which brought upon us the plague of top-quoting (hey, you top-quoted, too :-) On a more serious note: I'd not call it a war. It's a mix. On the one hand there is a more browser-centric culture, which doesn't understand what an asset it is to have diverse end-user agents -- and would like to get rid of the friction that (naturally!) entails. On the other hand there are the silos, which like to have more end user control, which you can't have as much if everyone gets to see their content the way they like. It's more complicated (and no, I don't believe people promoting Discourse are just an evil cabal; I'd guess Neil McGovern is a fine guy -- he's just wrong... from my POV, which might be wrong as well). Cheers -- t
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-04-12 17:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zUMpc-2S8-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #221309 |
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On Du, 12 apr 20, 16:23:52, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:57:22AM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: > > Is there a general "war on mailing lists" going on? > > I'd say there always has been a "war on mail". Starting with Outlook > which brought upon us the plague of top-quoting (hey, you top-quoted, > too :-) > > On a more serious note: I'd not call it a war. It's a mix. On the one > hand there is a more browser-centric culture, which doesn't understand > what an asset it is to have diverse end-user agents -- and would like > to get rid of the friction that (naturally!) entails. I don't believe the browser-centric culture cares about that at all[1], they are just much more familiar with other interfaces (point-and-click, tap/swipe). > On the other hand there are the silos, which like to have more end > user control, which you can't have as much if everyone gets to > see their content the way they like. I seriously doubt developers care about that. As far as I can tell most of them are trying to provide just enough[2] customization options without overwhelming less technical users. As far as I can tell for Debian the main drivers are: 1. The hope that software like Discourse can improve the quality of discussion as well as signal-to-noise ration, e.g. by providing an alternative to "+1" messages. 2. Providing communication options that are preferred by the younger generation, and that's just the natural course of life. [1] except maybe developers who get to fight with different implementations of standards [2] what "just enough" means depends, of course, on the user community. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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