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NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

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First post2020-03-24 05:10 +0100
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  NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?  "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-03-24 05:10 +0100
    Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of  client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-03-24 05:30 +0100
      Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client  OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Vincent Lammens <vincent@vincentlammens.be> - 2020-03-24 07:00 +0100
        Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 07:10 +0100
          Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-24 08:00 +0100
            Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of  client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Vincent Lammens <vincent@vincentlammens.be> - 2020-03-24 08:50 +0100
        Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-03-24 10:00 +0100
          Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 11:00 +0100
            Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 12:00 +0100
              Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 17:40 +0100
                Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 19:30 +0100
              Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client  OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-03-24 23:50 +0100
                Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-25 01:40 +0100
                  Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-25 08:30 +0100
                    Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-25 12:20 +0100
                    Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client  OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-03-25 13:10 +0100
                Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of  client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-03-25 10:40 +0100
          Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client  OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-03-24 23:40 +0100
      Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-03-24 08:40 +0100
        Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of  client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-03-24 17:20 +0100
          Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client  OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2020-03-25 08:30 +0100
            Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of  client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-03-25 15:40 +0100
    Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?  deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-24 14:50 +0100
      Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-24 19:00 +0100
      Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?  "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-03-25 04:40 +0100

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#220346 — NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

From"Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com>
Date2020-03-24 05:10 +0100
SubjectNAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zNJ33-1v7-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
The covid-19 situation is giving me lots of free time recently, so I've ordered a Raspberry Pi 4 with delivery expected sometime this week.

I'd like to use it for a NAS for the home network, so my family can share files without resorting to sneaker-net.

We have a full range of clients -- Mac, Win, Linux (mostly debian, but also CentOS and Ubuntu) and I'd like to be able to serve all of them if possible.

Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable, but almost any Linux will do.

I've been looking at Rockstor but I don't see anything there that will run on a Raspberry Pi.

Anybody using something they have had good experience with?

Thanks in advance,
Rick

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#220347 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2020-03-24 05:30 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zNJmp-1C4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220346
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
"Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> wrote:

> Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
> but almost any Linux will do.

I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me quite
well.

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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#220348 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromVincent Lammens <vincent@vincentlammens.be>
Date2020-03-24 07:00 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zNKLv-2mZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220347
Hi Rick

You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and 
comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all kinds 
of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and has a few 
plugins to add webdav for example.

---
Regards

Vincent Lammens
https://vincentlammens.net

Charles Curley schreef op 2020-03-24 05:28:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
> "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
>> but almost any Linux will do.
> 
> I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me quite
> well.

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#220349

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-24 07:10 +0100
Message-ID<zNKVb-2Gi-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220348
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 01:59:11 Vincent Lammens wrote:

> Hi Rick
>
> You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and
> comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all
> kinds of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and
> has a few plugins to add webdav for example.
>
> ---
> Regards
>
> Vincent Lammens
> https://vincentlammens.net

Access denied. Cert problem.

> Charles Curley schreef op 2020-03-24 05:28:
> > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
> >
> > "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
> >> but almost any Linux will do.
> >
> > I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me
> > quite well.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220350

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-24 08:00 +0100
Message-ID<zNLHA-2Xc-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220349
Gene Heskett wrote:

>> Vincent Lammens
>> https://vincentlammens.net
> 
> Access denied. Cert problem.

This was a good one, Gene :)

But lets give the youth a chance :)

Vincent, when I open http://vincentlammens.net it redirects correctly to
https://vincentlammens.net/en and opens, but as Gene noticed
https://vincentlammens.net does not work at all.

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#220352 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromVincent Lammens <vincent@vincentlammens.be>
Date2020-03-24 08:50 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zNMtX-3sU-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220350
Op Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:54:14 +0100
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> schreef:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> >> Vincent Lammens
> >> https://vincentlammens.net
> > 
> > Access denied. Cert problem.
> 
> This was a good one, Gene :)
> 
> But lets give the youth a chance :)
> 
> Vincent, when I open http://vincentlammens.net it redirects correctly
> to https://vincentlammens.net/en and opens, but as Gene noticed
> https://vincentlammens.net does not work at all.
> 
> 
> 

Oops ;) Didn't notice
that it said https, as it indeed does not work. Thanks for letting me
know Gene and Deloptes.

-- 
Regards

Vincent Lammens
http://vincentlammens.net

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#220353

From"Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com>
Date2020-03-24 10:00 +0100
Message-ID<zNNzI-45p-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220348

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> Hi Rick
> 
> You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and 
> comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all kinds 
> of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and has a few 
> plugins to add webdav for example.

Thanks, Vincent.  That looks very interesting.  Are there plugins to handle NFS (for Linux clients) and AFP (for Mac clients)?  Or (since both of them do speak SMB, whatever it's limitations) is SMB/ftp/ssh considered sufficient for all?

Enjoy!
Rick

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#220356

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-24 11:00 +0100
Message-ID<zNOvM-4FB-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220353
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 04:43:18 Rick Thomas wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> > Hi Rick
> >
> > You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and
> > comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all
> > kinds of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and
> > has a few plugins to add webdav for example.
>
> Thanks, Vincent.  That looks very interesting.  Are there plugins to
> handle NFS (for Linux clients) and AFP (for Mac clients)?  Or (since
> both of them do speak SMB, whatever it's limitations) is SMB/ftp/ssh
> considered sufficient for all?
>
> Enjoy!
> Rick

Is this something I could use to ease my support burden in trying to 
supply an rpi4 version of LinuxCNC?

As it is, I am building it and its preempt-rt kernel on the pi, but have 
to jump thru perms hoops to move those builds to this machine for 
interested folks to download and use them. I have apache2 running in a 
perms sandbox. If I could make the build result on the pi available 
directly from my web server on this machine, it would be helpfull.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220361

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-24 12:00 +0100
Message-ID<zNPrP-5f4-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220356
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 06:20:35 Vincent Lammens wrote:

> Op 2020-03-24 om 10:56 schreef Gene Heskett:
> > Is this something I could use to ease my support burden in trying to
> > supply an rpi4 version of LinuxCNC?
> >
> > As it is, I am building it and its preempt-rt kernel on the pi, but
> > have to jump thru perms hoops to move those builds to this machine
> > for interested folks to download and use them. I have apache2
> > running in a perms sandbox. If I could make the build result on the
> > pi available directly from my web server on this machine, it would
> > be helpfull.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> If I understand correctly it could help.
>
> But what you also can do, since you have a web server running on the
> pi already, is use Apache's mod_proxy on the web server machine
> pointing to the RPI. This way you don't need to copy it over from the
> pi's apache2 to the web server on your other machine, as you access it
> from directly the pi's Apache, proxied trough the other web server.
> (This is assuming the other web server is also Apache)

Apache2 that is. I assume I'll have to setup the web page on the pi to 
serve the stuff up first? I haven't done that yet. Thereby divorcing it 
from sshfs etc?

Thank you Vincent.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220398

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-24 17:40 +0100
Message-ID<zNUKR-7S-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220361
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 08:15:31 Vincent Lammens wrote:

> Op 2020-03-24 om 11:49 schreef Gene Heskett:
> > Apache2 that is. I assume I'll have to setup the web page on the pi
> > to serve the stuff up first? I haven't done that yet. Thereby
> > divorcing it from sshfs etc?
>
> Yeah, once you can access the files on the Apache install on the rpi,
> you can set up the reverse proxy on the other server to point to the
> Apache install on the rpi.

I'd assume that I could put the pi files in the same sandbox? Thats 
somewhat confusing because www-data doesn't exist as a user on either 
machine. But it works on this amd64 machine, but a chown doesn't work on 
the pi.  Humm, pi is not a member of www-data on the pi, but I am on 
this box.  Bears investigation because if I add pi to that group, both 
are then user 1000. And thats not a warm and fuzzy feeling. Looks like I 
need lessons on sandboxing.

Thanks Vincent.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220408

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-24 19:30 +0100
Message-ID<zNWtl-1fq-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220398
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 12:55:24 Vincent Lammens wrote:

> Op 24/03/2020 om 17:32 schreef Gene Heskett:
> > I'd assume that I could put the pi files in the same sandbox? Thats
> > somewhat confusing because www-data doesn't exist as a user on
> > either machine. But it works on this amd64 machine, but a chown
> > doesn't work on the pi.  Humm, pi is not a member of www-data on the
> > pi, but I am on this box.  Bears investigation because if I add pi
> > to that group, both are then user 1000. And thats not a warm and
> > fuzzy feeling. Looks like I need lessons on sandboxing.
> >
> > Thanks Vincent.
>
> that's a wired situation you got going there. Let me know if you
> succeed, I'm interested.
>
Well, with a root shell laying around, I have a workaround that moves the 
files fairly rapidly, so I'll need an excuse to raise the priority.  

Don't hold your breath as I've other responsibilities here like being a 
caregiver for my missus of the last 30 years whose now dying of COPD, 
and its down to me to handle all the i/o that entails.  The older I get, 
the better I was syndrome. :) And I'd like to ignore that my list of 
replacement parts has pretty well filled my card case. OTOH, theres a 
looooong list of BTDT's, some of which might even be interesting if 
shared over a beer.
>
> Regards
>
> Vincent Lammens
> http://vincentlammens.net


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220432 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2020-03-24 23:50 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zO0wW-3F6-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220361
On 2020-03-24 03:49, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 March 2020 06:20:35 Vincent Lammens wrote:
> 
>> Op 2020-03-24 om 10:56 schreef Gene Heskett:
>>> Is this something I could use to ease my support burden in trying to
>>> supply an rpi4 version of LinuxCNC?
>>>
>>> As it is, I am building it and its preempt-rt kernel on the pi, but
>>> have to jump thru perms hoops to move those builds to this machine
>>> for interested folks to download and use them. I have apache2
>>> running in a perms sandbox. If I could make the build result on the
>>> pi available directly from my web server on this machine, it would
>>> be helpfull.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>
>> If I understand correctly it could help.
>>
>> But what you also can do, since you have a web server running on the
>> pi already, is use Apache's mod_proxy on the web server machine
>> pointing to the RPI. This way you don't need to copy it over from the
>> pi's apache2 to the web server on your other machine, as you access it
>> from directly the pi's Apache, proxied trough the other web server.
>> (This is assuming the other web server is also Apache)
> 
> Apache2 that is. I assume I'll have to setup the web page on the pi to
> serve the stuff up first? I haven't done that yet. Thereby divorcing it
> from sshfs etc?
> 
> Thank you Vincent.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

I hosted services from home many years ago.  My bandwidth was very 
quickly consumed and connectivity became a major problem.  Now I use 
domain hosting and VPS services.


David

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#220443

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-25 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<zO2fn-4KX-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220432
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 18:46:00 David Christensen wrote:

> On 2020-03-24 03:49, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 March 2020 06:20:35 Vincent Lammens wrote:
> >> Op 2020-03-24 om 10:56 schreef Gene Heskett:
> >>> Is this something I could use to ease my support burden in trying
> >>> to supply an rpi4 version of LinuxCNC?
> >>>
> >>> As it is, I am building it and its preempt-rt kernel on the pi,
> >>> but have to jump thru perms hoops to move those builds to this
> >>> machine for interested folks to download and use them. I have
> >>> apache2 running in a perms sandbox. If I could make the build
> >>> result on the pi available directly from my web server on this
> >>> machine, it would be helpfull.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>
> >> If I understand correctly it could help.
> >>
> >> But what you also can do, since you have a web server running on
> >> the pi already, is use Apache's mod_proxy on the web server machine
> >> pointing to the RPI. This way you don't need to copy it over from
> >> the pi's apache2 to the web server on your other machine, as you
> >> access it from directly the pi's Apache, proxied trough the other
> >> web server. (This is assuming the other web server is also Apache)
> >
> > Apache2 that is. I assume I'll have to setup the web page on the pi
> > to serve the stuff up first? I haven't done that yet. Thereby
> > divorcing it from sshfs etc?
> >
> > Thank you Vincent.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> I hosted services from home many years ago.  My bandwidth was very
> quickly consumed and connectivity became a major problem.  Now I use
> domain hosting and VPS services.
>
Whereas I installed the 16 inch gun version of bot killers, iptables.  It 
has taken 65 lines of DROP's in the form of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24 to 
control the bots but I seem to be doing that well now, and my net 
bandwidth has dropped like a rock, was peaking at >100g a month but now 
theres room for me a get a packet in edgewise if someone wants a ready 
built preempt-rt kernel and ready to configure for their hardware but 
bleeding edge LinuxCNC for their rpi4. But while I am adding rules, 
they'll move the bots to get away from people like me. They don't want 
to understand that if they want to mirror my site, they can pay me for 
the bandwidth used. Index it yes, mirror it daily, no.

Now its about tied with incoming email. And the folks who want my stuff 
can get it at the upload rate I'm paying for. Nominally 300k/second.

> David


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#220450

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-25 08:30 +0100
Message-ID<zO8E9-n5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220443
Gene Heskett wrote:

> Whereas I installed the 16 inch gun version of bot killers, iptables.  It
> has taken 65 lines of DROP's in the form of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24 to
> control the bots but I seem to be doing that well now, and my net
> bandwidth has dropped like a rock, was peaking at >100g a month but now
> theres room for me a get a packet in edgewise if someone wants a ready
> built preempt-rt kernel and ready to configure for their hardware but
> bleeding edge LinuxCNC for their rpi4. But while I am adding rules,
> they'll move the bots to get away from people like me. They don't want
> to understand that if they want to mirror my site, they can pay me for
> the bandwidth used. Index it yes, mirror it daily, no.
> 
> Now its about tied with incoming email. And the folks who want my stuff
> can get it at the upload rate I'm paying for. Nominally 300k/second.

I was wondering if you have considered using VPN?

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#220469

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-03-25 12:20 +0100
Message-ID<zOceJ-2C8-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220450
On Wednesday 25 March 2020 03:23:50 deloptes wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Whereas I installed the 16 inch gun version of bot killers,
> > iptables.  It has taken 65 lines of DROP's in the form of
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24 to control the bots but I seem to be doing that
> > well now, and my net bandwidth has dropped like a rock, was peaking
> > at >100g a month but now theres room for me a get a packet in
> > edgewise if someone wants a ready built preempt-rt kernel and ready
> > to configure for their hardware but bleeding edge LinuxCNC for their
> > rpi4. But while I am adding rules, they'll move the bots to get away
> > from people like me. They don't want to understand that if they want
> > to mirror my site, they can pay me for the bandwidth used. Index it
> > yes, mirror it daily, no.
> >
> > Now its about tied with incoming email. And the folks who want my
> > stuff can get it at the upload rate I'm paying for. Nominally
> > 300k/second.
>
> I was wondering if you have considered using VPN?

I have but setting it up looks rather daunting.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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#220476 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2020-03-25 13:10 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zOd18-38w-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220450
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:33:17AM +0100, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> Op 2020-03-25 om 8:23 schreef deloptes:
> > I was wondering if you have considered using VPN?
> > 
> 
> How would a VPN help him? A VPS might, but that is a server in the
> cloud, which are quite expensive sometimes.

I read it as VPS too.  You can get a low-end VPS quite cheaply ($2 to $10
per month, I believe), and moving your hosted content offsite can be a
major relief for your local bandwidth.

A quick Google search for "cheap vps" right now confirms the $2/month
low end price.  The one I got several years back is $6 a month.

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#220461 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-03-25 10:40 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zOaFX-1zU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220432
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:46:00 -0700
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

 
> 
> I hosted services from home many years ago.  My bandwidth was very 
> quickly consumed and connectivity became a major problem.  Now I use 
> domain hosting and VPS services.
> 

I've never known enough about web server security to dare to run a site
on my own server. I've always used a small amount of hosted web space
elsewhere, and given somebody else the job of not getting hacked.

The downside of that is that one of my former hosts has been taken over
by another company, the web hosting was dropped but the server still
remains connected, so I have a ridiculously out-of-date set of pages
still up, that neither I nor anybody else are able to remove. The
copyright notice of 2007 is a clue to anybody finding it, which is at
least unlikely as it is accessible on a URL that I haven't published
anywhere for twenty years. But it's still there, I've just looked...

-- 
Joe

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#220431 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2020-03-24 23:40 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zO0nf-3BL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220353
On 2020-03-24 01:43, Rick Thomas wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Vincent Lammens wrote:

>> openmediavault.

> Are there plugins to handle NFS (for Linux clients) and AFP (for Mac clients)?  Or (since both of them do speak SMB, whatever it's limitations) is SMB/ftp/ssh considered sufficient for all?


Running multiple file sharing services against the same backing store 
sounds like a recipe for disaster.  Different operating systems and 
different network file sharing protocols make different assumptions 
about file system features and how to implement translations to foreign 
file systems.  Even fundamental stuff, such as user and/or group 
identification, binary vs. text mode,  end-of-line character sequence, 
permissions vs. attributes, file locking, etc., often require imperfect 
compromises on the client and/or server.  Things get even more complex 
as you add more features -- access control lists (ACL), file and dataset 
properties, snapshots, clones, file flags, securelevels, security 
policies, etc..


I use Samba alone for my SOHO file server.  If/when I want another 
protocol, it will have its own backing store.


David

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#220351

From"Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com>
Date2020-03-24 08:40 +0100
Message-ID<zNMkh-3p0-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220347

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 9:28 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
> "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
> > but almost any Linux will do.
> 
> I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me quite
> well.

Thanks for the pointer, Charles.  It looks very interesting.  Nextcloud sounds like it does exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for.

Can you explain a little bit about how "plain vanilla Samba" fits into the nextcloud picture?

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#220397 — Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2020-03-24 17:20 +0100
SubjectRe: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?
Message-ID<zNUrv-8t8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#220351
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 00:14:24 -0700
"Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> wrote:

> Can you explain a little bit about how "plain vanilla Samba" fits
> into the nextcloud picture?

It doesn't, really. I had Samba running just fine long before I tried
nextcloud. When I realized that nextcloud stores files as binary blobs
in an SQL database, I decided that I prefer Samba (or AFS or NFS....),
where a file is backed by a file. I do use the nextcloud file server
for smaller files, and leave the big ones on Samba.

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