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Dolphin as root

Started by"Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com>
First post2020-03-01 20:00 +0100
Last post2020-03-16 20:30 +0100
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  Dolphin as root "Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com> - 2020-03-01 20:00 +0100
    Re: Dolphin as root Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-03-02 01:10 +0100
      Re: Dolphin as root Keith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com> - 2020-03-02 09:00 +0100
        Re: Dolphin as root Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-03-02 15:50 +0100
          Re: Dolphin as root "Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com> - 2020-03-04 00:10 +0100
            Re: Dolphin as root Keith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com> - 2020-03-04 07:50 +0100
    Re: Dolphin as root Bernd Gruber <begruber@mnet-online.de> - 2020-03-16 20:30 +0100

#219691 — Dolphin as root

From"Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-01 20:00 +0100
SubjectDolphin as root
Message-ID<zFBYJ-9o-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi all,

Some time ago somebody decided that Dolphin was too dangerous when being 
used as root. (Don't lecture me on using sudo and not su.) My hobby work 
load is not subjected to any security problems, I am behind a pretty 
good firewall and I am a single user. I have to switch between user and 
root files a lot and the use of sudo is a pain you know where. For many 
reasons Dolphin was my goto package especially when copying or moving 
root files. I understand that the fury over the above change was so 
great that the developers backed off. To date I have not found a way to 
log in my Dolphin package as root. I am using KDE 5.14.5 desktop with 
Debian Buster and an AMD-64 processor.

There are a lot of forum entries telling how to correct the problem on 
Ubuntu but none of them work on Debian (missing software packages).

Can anyone tell me how to setup Dolphin for root use again. I have my 
Icon set up to ask for root login but the system won't allow its use.


Gary R.

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#219696

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2020-03-02 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<zFGOJ-3pV-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219691
If it was me I would just install Pluma and be done with it.

anyway, dedoimedo is kinda smart and a newfound KDE fanboi
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kde-dolphin-as-root.html

On 3/1/20 10:56 AM, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some time ago somebody decided that Dolphin was too dangerous when 
> being used as root. (Don't lecture me on using sudo and not su.) My 
> hobby work load is not subjected to any security problems, I am behind 
> a pretty good firewall and I am a single user. I have to switch 
> between user and root files a lot and the use of sudo is a pain you 
> know where. For many reasons Dolphin was my goto package especially 
> when copying or moving root files. I understand that the fury over the 
> above change was so great that the developers backed off. To date I 
> have not found a way to log in my Dolphin package as root. I am using 
> KDE 5.14.5 desktop with Debian Buster and an AMD-64 processor.
>
> There are a lot of forum entries telling how to correct the problem on 
> Ubuntu but none of them work on Debian (missing software packages).
>
> Can anyone tell me how to setup Dolphin for root use again. I have my 
> Icon set up to ask for root login but the system won't allow its use.
>
>
> Gary R.
>
>

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#219704

FromKeith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com>
Date2020-03-02 09:00 +0100
Message-ID<zFO9z-7Pp-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219696
On 2/3/20 10:44 am, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> If it was me I would just install Pluma and be done with it.


I used be a KDE devotee, changed a few years ago.

I use caja as my gui file manager of choice. It has the option of dual 
pane - allowing you to open source & destination directories.

Or mc

I know you wanted to fix dolphin, but......


-- 
Keith Bainbridge

ke1th3216@zoho.com
+61 (0)447 667 468

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#219714

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2020-03-02 15:50 +0100
Message-ID<zFUyl-3qG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219704
On 3/1/20 11:41 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> On 2/3/20 10:44 am, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>> If it was me I would just install Pluma and be done with it.
oops, I intended to say caja
>
>
> I used be a KDE devotee, changed a few years ago.
>
> I use caja as my gui file manager of choice. It has the option of dual 
> pane - allowing you to open source & destination directories.
>
> Or mc
>
> I know you wanted to fix dolphin, but......
>
>

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#219754

From"Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-04 00:10 +0100
Message-ID<zGoPM-5GI-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219714
Thanks for the information. Caja can be started as root. This solves my 
problem but it would still be nice if someone could fix the Dolphin problem.

Gary R

On 3/2/20 6:30 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 3/1/20 11:41 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
>> On 2/3/20 10:44 am, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>>> If it was me I would just install Pluma and be done with it.
> oops, I intended to say caja
>>
>>
>> I used be a KDE devotee, changed a few years ago.
>>
>> I use caja as my gui file manager of choice. It has the option of 
>> dual pane - allowing you to open source & destination directories.
>>
>> Or mc
>>
>> I know you wanted to fix dolphin, but......
>>
>>
>

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#219760

FromKeith Bainbridge <ke1th3216@zoho.com>
Date2020-03-04 07:50 +0100
Message-ID<zGw0W-1vW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219754
On 4/3/20 10:08 am, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Thanks for the information. Caja can be started as root. This solves my 
> problem but it would still be nice if someone could fix the Dolphin 
> problem.


Perhaps you need to take that to KDE team?

-- 
Keith Bainbridge

ke1th3216@zoho.com
+61 (0)447 667 468

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#220150

FromBernd Gruber <begruber@mnet-online.de>
Date2020-03-16 20:30 +0100
Message-ID<zL3AZ-eH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219691
Hello,
look at this:
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=141836&start=30

This worked for me:
sudo sh -c "unset SUDO_USER; unset KDESU_USER; dolphin"

or this:

su --login
export $(dbus-launch)
export XAUTHORITY=/home/USER/.Xauthority
export DISPLAY=:0
dolphin
 

Bernd



Gary L. Roach wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Some time ago somebody decided that Dolphin was too dangerous when being
> used as root. (Don't lecture me on using sudo and not su.) My hobby work
> load is not subjected to any security problems, I am behind a pretty
> good firewall and I am a single user. I have to switch between user and
> root files a lot and the use of sudo is a pain you know where. For many
> reasons Dolphin was my goto package especially when copying or moving
> root files. I understand that the fury over the above change was so
> great that the developers backed off. To date I have not found a way to
> log in my Dolphin package as root. I am using KDE 5.14.5 desktop with
> Debian Buster and an AMD-64 processor.
> 
> There are a lot of forum entries telling how to correct the problem on
> Ubuntu but none of them work on Debian (missing software packages).
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to setup Dolphin for root use again. I have my
> Icon set up to ask for root login but the system won't allow its use.
> 
> 
> Gary R.

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