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  Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-06 18:20 +0100
    Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-03-06 18:30 +0100
    Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-03-06 18:40 +0100
      Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-06 19:00 +0100
        Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-03-06 19:10 +0100
          Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-06 20:20 +0100
            Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-03-06 20:40 +0100
              Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-03-06 20:50 +0100
                Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-03-06 21:00 +0100
                  Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-07 00:40 +0100
                    Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-03-07 09:50 +0100
          Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-03-06 20:50 +0100
            Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-03-06 21:00 +0100
        Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-06 19:10 +0100
    Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-07 08:20 +0100
    Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan  LIDE 700F) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-03-07 15:10 +0100
      Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-07 15:30 +0100
    OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner …  LIDE 700F) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-09 15:10 +0100
      Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner …  LIDE 700F) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-03-09 15:20 +0100
        Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner … LIDE 700F) Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-03-09 19:00 +0100
        Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner … LIDE 700F) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-03-10 14:30 +0100
      Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner … LIDE 700F) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-03-09 16:00 +0100
        Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner …  LIDE 700F) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-09 18:10 +0100
          Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner … LIDE 700F) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-03-09 20:30 +0100
            Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner …  LIDE 700F) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-10 05:10 +0100
              Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner … LIDE 700F) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-10 05:40 +0100
                Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner … LIDE 700F) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-03-10 10:20 +0100
                  Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner   … LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-10 14:00 +0100
                  Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner   … LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-10 14:50 +0100
                    Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a  scanner  … LIDE 700F) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-03-10 16:40 +0100
      Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner   … LIDE 700F) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-09 17:50 +0100

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#219894 — Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

Is there a simple program to use a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 700F) on any of 
Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster?  It needs to have the ability to crop an image.

I dread the idea of trying to set it up in CUPS, in fact, iirc, last time I 
tried it in CUPS (which was quite a while ago (5 years? longer?)), I could not 
find a driver (either there was no driver, or maybe there was a "maybe" driver 
(a driver that might work for several different scanners, but did not work for 
me -- that was probably under Wheezy)).  (If CUPS is the only possibility, I 
probably won't even try, partly because I'm in something of a hurry.)

Background: I'm trying to do taxes for a few of my friends using H&R Block's 
free online software (they qualify, as all their income is due to wages).  The 
online software has the ability to automatically read (i.e., OCR) W2s from a 
picture.  It is inconvenient for me to take the pictures for various reasons 
(among them, my camera does not have an interface (USB or anything else) to 
connect to a computer, I have to take the pictures, save them to an SD card, 
then move them to the computer, and somewhere in the process, crop them so 
they have a minimal border on all sides, another is setting up the camera on a 
tripod and aimed at a suitable dark background and held flat).

The feature in the H&R Block software is named "Snap-a-pic W-2 capture", and 
I'm not 100% sure it will work with an image from a scanner, but it seems 
worth a try -- it would be much easier in many ways.

At least one of my friends is anxious to get her tax refund (I'm sure they all 
are, but she is most anxious).

Suggestions?

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#219895 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

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On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:17:23PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a simple program to use a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 700F) on any of 
> Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster?  It needs to have the ability to crop an image.
[...]

Xsane.

Cheers
-- t

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#219896 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:17:23PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a simple program to use a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 700F) on any of 
> Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster?  It needs to have the ability to crop an image.

xsane or simple-scan.
 
> I dread the idea of trying to set it up in CUPS, in fact, iirc, last time I 
> tried it in CUPS (which was quite a while ago (5 years? longer?)), I could not 
> find a driver (either there was no driver, or maybe there was a "maybe" driver 
> (a driver that might work for several different scanners, but did not work for 
> me -- that was probably under Wheezy)).  (If CUPS is the only possibility, I 
> probably won't even try, partly because I'm in something of a hurry.)

CUPS hasn't anything to do with scanning.

-- 
Brian.

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#219898

On Friday, March 06, 2020 12:29:56 PM Brian wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:17:23PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is there a simple program to use a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 700F) on any of
> > Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster?  It needs to have the ability to crop an
> > image.
> 
> xsane or simple-scan.
> 
> > I dread the idea of trying to set it up in CUPS, in fact, iirc, last time
> > I tried it in CUPS (which was quite a while ago (5 years? longer?)), I
> > could not find a driver (either there was no driver, or maybe there was
> > a "maybe" driver (a driver that might work for several different
> > scanners, but did not work for me -- that was probably under Wheezy)). 
> > (If CUPS is the only possibility, I probably won't even try, partly
> > because I'm in something of a hurry.)
> 
> CUPS hasn't anything to do with scanning.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, you're right (of course).  It must have been SANE that I tried all those 
years ago.  Someone else suggested SANE + XSANE and suggested a page where I 
could check for a driver (h-node) (or compatibility):

https://h-node.org/scanners/catalogue/en/1/1/Canon-
Inc./undef/undef/undef/compatibility/undef

I checked / searched there -- no listing for the CanoScan LIDE 700F or 
anything close to it (I tried a variety of search terms).  (A few CanoScans, 
but nothing that looked close to the LIDE 700F (based on model numbers).)

I'll look into simple-scan.

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#219899 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

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On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:51:04PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 06, 2020 12:29:56 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:17:23PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Is there a simple program to use a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 700F) on any of
> > > Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster?  It needs to have the ability to crop an
> > > image.
> > 
> > xsane or simple-scan.
> > 
> > > I dread the idea of trying to set it up in CUPS, in fact, iirc, last time
> > > I tried it in CUPS (which was quite a while ago (5 years? longer?)), I
> > > could not find a driver (either there was no driver, or maybe there was
> > > a "maybe" driver (a driver that might work for several different
> > > scanners, but did not work for me -- that was probably under Wheezy)). 
> > > (If CUPS is the only possibility, I probably won't even try, partly
> > > because I'm in something of a hurry.)
> > 
> > CUPS hasn't anything to do with scanning.
> 
> Thanks for the reply!
> 
> Yes, you're right (of course).  It must have been SANE that I tried all those 
> years ago.  Someone else suggested SANE + XSANE and suggested a page where I 
> could check for a driver (h-node) (or compatibility):
> 
> https://h-node.org/scanners/catalogue/en/1/1/Canon-
> Inc./undef/undef/undef/compatibility/undef
> 
> I checked / searched there -- no listing for the CanoScan LIDE 700F or 
> anything close to it (I tried a variety of search terms).  (A few CanoScans, 
> but nothing that looked close to the LIDE 700F (based on model numbers).)

According to this [1] man page, the sane-genesys backend supports your
model. No first-hand experience, though...

> I'll look into simple-scan.

Simple-scan is also based on libsane (as Xsane is). It also depends
on all those "desktop goodies" as dbus-session, xdg-utils, gsettings
and friends, which you might like -- or not. So it may be called
"simple" but Xsane is definitely simpler -- although most definitely
not as shiny.

Cheers
[1] http://sane-project.org/man/sane-genesys.5.html

-- t

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#219904

On Friday, March 06, 2020 01:02:27 PM tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> According to this [1] man page, the sane-genesys backend supports your
> model. No first-hand experience, though...
> 
> > I'll look into simple-scan.
> 
> Simple-scan is also based on libsane (as Xsane is). It also depends
> on all those "desktop goodies" as dbus-session, xdg-utils, gsettings
> and friends, which you might like -- or not. So it may be called
> "simple" but Xsane is definitely simpler -- although most definitely
> not as shiny.
> 
> Cheers
> [1] http://sane-project.org/man/sane-genesys.5.html

Thanks for the reply!

I don't see sane-genesys (or genesys) in Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster.  I suppose 
I'd have to compile build it myself (or try installing testing or similar) -- 
not sure I'm ready for either.

I think I'll boot the Buster system back into Windows (Vista) and see if I can 
get it to work there -- I do apparently have to find and download the Windows 
driver.

Going to take a break for a while -- probably go out and do my run.

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#219906 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

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On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:17:52 -0500
rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,

>I don't see sane-genesys (or genesys) in Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster.  I

You might have been searching for the wrong thing;

libsane-genesys* is provided by package libsane, which is available in
everything from jessie to sid.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I guess I shouldn't have strangled her to death
Ugly - The Stranglers

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#219907 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

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On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:35:32PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:17:52 -0500
> rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,
> 
> >I don't see sane-genesys (or genesys) in Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster.  I
> 
> You might have been searching for the wrong thing;
> 
> libsane-genesys* is provided by package libsane, which is available in
> everything from jessie to sid.

Yes, it's a lib:

  tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search genesys
  libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1
  libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1.0.27
  [...]

This is on buster.

Cheers
-- t

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#219910 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:46:07PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:35:32PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:17:52 -0500
> > rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,
> > 
> > >I don't see sane-genesys (or genesys) in Wheezy, Jessie, or Buster.  I
> > 
> > You might have been searching for the wrong thing;
> > 
> > libsane-genesys* is provided by package libsane, which is available in
> > everything from jessie to sid.
> 
> Yes, it's a lib:
> 
>   tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search genesys
>   libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1
>   libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1.0.27
>   [...]

Indeed it is. It is a backend to SANE. The Project says that support
for the CanoScan 700F is "Good". The OP seems to have a good chance of
getting it scanning.

Meanwhile, he has probably devoted some time to reading the wiki.

-- 
Brian.

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#219916

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On Friday, March 06, 2020 02:55:56 PM Brian wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:46:07PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:35:32PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > You might have been searching for the wrong thing;
> > > 
> > > libsane-genesys* is provided by package libsane, which is available in
> > > everything from jessie to sid.
> > 
> > Yes, it's a lib:
> >   tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search genesys
> >   libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1
> >   libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1.0.27
> >   [...]
> 
> Indeed it is. It is a backend to SANE. The Project says that support
> for the CanoScan 700F is "Good". The OP seems to have a good chance of
> getting it scanning.
> 
> Meanwhile, he has probably devoted some time to reading the wiki.

Well, I am digging into the documentation, I might get to the wiki, or I might 
keep pursuing Windows ...

The list of SANE: Supported Devices 
at:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON

Says there is good support for the CanoScan 700F but does not list support at 
all for the CanoScan LiDE 700F (but does have separate listing for several 
other models differentiated by LiDE, e.g. CanoScan 600 vs. CanoScan LiDE 600 
(I'm guessing about 10 different models like this).

I vaguely remember / suspect this is what I ran into last time I tried this.  
I will do a little more reading, I don't know what the LiDE indicates...

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#219927 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 18:30:31 -0500
rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, March 06, 2020 02:55:56 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:46:07PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:  
> > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:35:32PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:  
> > > > You might have been searching for the wrong thing;
> > > > 
> > > > libsane-genesys* is provided by package libsane, which is
> > > > available in everything from jessie to sid.  
> > > 
> > > Yes, it's a lib:
> > >   tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search genesys
> > >   libsane: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1
> > >   libsane:
> > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-genesys.so.1.0.27 [...]  
> > 
> > Indeed it is. It is a backend to SANE. The Project says that support
> > for the CanoScan 700F is "Good". The OP seems to have a good chance
> > of getting it scanning.
> > 
> > Meanwhile, he has probably devoted some time to reading the wiki.  
> 
> Well, I am digging into the documentation, I might get to the wiki,
> or I might keep pursuing Windows ...
> 
> The list of SANE: Supported Devices 
> at:
> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON
> 
> Says there is good support for the CanoScan 700F but does not list
> support at all for the CanoScan LiDE 700F (but does have separate
> listing for several other models differentiated by LiDE, e.g.
> CanoScan 600 vs. CanoScan LiDE 600 (I'm guessing about 10 different
> models like this).
> 
> I vaguely remember / suspect this is what I ran into last time I
> tried this. I will do a little more reading, I don't know what the
> LiDE indicates...

Nothing bad in itself. I have a LiDE 20 which is literally twenty years
old, which works fine on simple-scan. I inherited it from my wife, when
it turned out that Win7/64 didn't have a driver for it, though win7/32
had.

-- 
Joe

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#219908 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:02:27PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:51:04PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I'll look into simple-scan.
> 
> Simple-scan is also based on libsane (as Xsane is). It also depends
> on all those "desktop goodies" as dbus-session, xdg-utils, gsettings
> and friends, which you might like -- or not. So it may be called
> "simple" but Xsane is definitely simpler -- although most definitely
> not as shiny.

Like you, my preference is xsane as a fromtend to SANE. However, I do
not think it is the lack of shinyness that puts users off using it.
Not completely, anyway. What is perceived as the plethora of options
and things to click on is a factor, particulary when it comes to new
or casual users.

And don't forget - Ubuntu and Mint (both widely used) ship simple-scan.
That is what their users are familiar with. It doesn't do a bad job.

-- 
Brian.`

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#219909 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

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On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:46:05PM +0000, Brian wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 07:02:27PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > Simple-scan is also based on libsane (as Xsane is). It also depends
> > on all those "desktop goodies" [...]

> Like you, my preference is xsane as a fromtend to SANE. However, I do
> not think it is the lack of shinyness that puts users off using it.
> Not completely, anyway. What is perceived as the plethora of options
> and things to click on is a factor, particulary when it comes to new
> or casual users.

I forgot to put a smiley in there :-)

I can imagine that simple-scan caters more to the expectation of
a modern GUI user, and thus may be the better choice, Especially
if said user has already bought into the "desktop" paradigm.

I tried for a while and... it's not for me.

> And don't forget - Ubuntu and Mint (both widely used) ship simple-scan.
> That is what their users are familiar with. It doesn't do a bad job.

Definitely.

Cheers
-- t

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#219900

On Friday, March 06, 2020 12:51:04 PM rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes, you're right (of course).  It must have been SANE that I tried all
> those years ago.  Someone else suggested SANE + XSANE and suggested a page
> where I could check for a driver (h-node) (or compatibility):
> 
> https://h-node.org/scanners/catalogue/en/1/1/Canon-
> Inc./undef/undef/undef/compatibility/undef
> 
> I checked / searched there -- no listing for the CanoScan LIDE 700F or
> anything close to it (I tried a variety of search terms).  (A few
> CanoScans, but nothing that looked close to the LIDE 700F (based on model
> numbers).)
> 
> I'll look into simple-scan.

Ok, I noticed that simple-scan uses sane / xsane, so I didn't have high hopes 
(as h-node found nothing compatible), but I installed it anyway on my Buster 
system -- no luck: ~"No scanner found".

The system with Buster also has Windows 8 (or Vista? -- I forget which) on it, 
I'll boot into that and see if it works there.

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#219926

rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> Background: I'm trying to do taxes for a few of my friends using H&R
> Block's free online software (they qualify, as all their income is due to
> wages).  The online software has the ability to automatically read (i.e.,
> OCR) W2s from a picture.

Oooh - online - so you scan your data and send it online and it is free.
You surely read the agreement that you signed.
There is nothing for free. I would never send my accounting data anywhere.

Be careful

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#219942 — Re: Simple software for a scanner with ability to crop (CanoScan LIDE 700F)

On 2020-03-06, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Background: I'm trying to do taxes for a few of my friends using H&R Block's 
> free online software (they qualify, as all their income is due to wages).  The 
> online software has the ability to automatically read (i.e., OCR) W2s from a 
> picture.  It is inconvenient for me to take the pictures for various reasons 
> (among them, my camera does not have an interface (USB or anything else) to 
> connect to a computer, I have to take the pictures, save them to an SD card, 
> then move them to the computer, and somewhere in the process, crop them so 
> they have a minimal border on all sides, another is setting up the camera on a 
> tripod and aimed at a suitable dark background and held flat).
>

https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/support/software/software-tax-filing/while-filing-software-return/photo-capture/

 To use photo capture in H&R Block Software products:

 1. Take a pic of your W-2 with your phone.
 2. We’ll text you a secure link. You’ll only need internet access to use the link — no app required.
 3. Open the link on your phone. 
 4. Follow the on-screen instructions.
 5. Once the upload is done, confirm the data from your W-2 photo upload to
    make sure it’s all correct.

(Phone not included.)

I'm not sure, but maybe you need one (a smartphone) to use the photo
capture feature. (BTW, I use simple-scan, after having used xsane for
many years, and would recommend it, if anyone cared. I was unaware that
it was somehow infra dig for the many purists among us.)

-- 
Nous fîmes l'amour longtemps, à la façon des craquements qui se produisent dans
les meubles. Nous fîmes l'amour comme le soleil bat, comme les cercueils
ferment, comme le silence appelle, comme la nuit brille. Et dans nos yeux qui n'étaient 
jamais ouverts en même temps ne se débattaient rien que nos sorts les plus purs. --André Breton

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#219944

On Saturday, March 07, 2020 09:00:40 AM Curt wrote:

> https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/support/software/software-tax-filing/whi
> le-filing-software-return/photo-capture/
> 
>  To use photo capture in H&R Block Software products:
> 
>  1. Take a pic of your W-2 with your phone.

...

> I'm not sure, but maybe you need one (a smartphone) to use the photo
> capture feature. 

Thanks for the reply.

Maybe, but I hope and suspect not.  I do have a smartphone, but the service 
has only text and voice (not data) (a grandfathered T-Mobile account), so I 
suspect I can't send pictures -- well, maybe if I hook up a WAP and then use 
WiFi, but I still think a scanner will make things easier.  (Of course, maybe 
the scanned images won't work either.

And then I'm still left with trying to hand hold the smartphone steady enough 
to get a usable image.  (Something like 20 times -- lots of W2s.)

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#220000 — OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner … LIDE 700F)

On Fri 06 Mar 2020 at 12:17:23 (-0500), rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> Background: I'm trying to do taxes for a few of my friends using H&R Block's 
> free online software (they qualify, as all their income is due to wages).

One hopes that you've distinguished between 'filing for "free"' and
the actual IRS Free File Program.

https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/about-the-free-file-program

Cheers,
David.

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#220002 — Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner … LIDE 700F)

On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 09:02:02AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> One hopes that you've distinguished between 'filing for "free"' and
> the actual IRS Free File Program.
> 
> https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/about-the-free-file-program

  Use Free File Software if your income is $69,000 or less and Free File
  Fillable Forms if your income is greater than $69,000. 

  [...]

  File Fillable Forms is a FREE forms-based tool enabling you to select your
  income tax forms, enter your tax information, print and e-file your federal
  tax return. If you’re not comfortable completing a paper return by hand,
  without software to guide you, you should consider another method of filing
  your tax return.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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#220010 — Re: OT Filing for free vs Free File, was Re: Simple software for a scanner … LIDE 700F)

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 10:12:59 -0400
Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 09:02:02AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > One hopes that you've distinguished between 'filing for "free"' and
> > the actual IRS Free File Program.
> > 
> > https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/about-the-free-file-program  
> 
>   Use Free File Software if your income is $69,000 or less and Free File
>   Fillable Forms if your income is greater than $69,000. 
> 
>   [...]
> 
>   File Fillable Forms is a FREE forms-based tool enabling you to select your
>   income tax forms, enter your tax information, print and e-file your federal
>   tax return. If you’re not comfortable completing a paper return by hand,
>   without software to guide you, you should consider another method of filing
>   your tax return.
> 
> This is why we can't have nice things.

For years I used TaxAct (www.taxact.com) software, the free version for
federal taxes.  You could file online, but I never did.  Printed a hard
copy and mailed it in.  Why make it easy for the IRS?

In all the years I used TaxAct, I never had the IRS complain or audit
me.  FWIW, I was self-employed, owned a home, had rental property,
etc.  So, my return was quite involved.

B

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