Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > linux.debian.user > #219484 > unrolled thread

This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

Started by"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com>
First post2020-02-26 17:50 +0100
Last post2020-02-27 20:30 +0100
Articles 6 — 3 participants

Back to article view | Back to linux.debian.user


Contents

  This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2020-02-26 17:50 +0100
    Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it  directly Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-02-26 18:00 +0100
      Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it  directly "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2020-02-27 19:40 +0100
        Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it  directly Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-02-27 19:50 +0100
          Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it  directly Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-02-27 20:00 +0100
            Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it  directly Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-02-27 20:30 +0100

#219484 — This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

From"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com>
Date2020-02-26 17:50 +0100
SubjectThis is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zE82J-X2-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
One of our Linux boxes is behaving oddly. If I ssh into it, I can 
connect easily, and I get:
> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
> 
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
> Last login: Wed Jan 29 08:32:12 2020 from 192.168.1.15

But if I go into the server cage, and punch it up on the KVM switch, and 
try to sign on as root, I get:
> Debian GNU/Linux 8 Titan tty1
> 
> Titan login: root
> [10371235.533392] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 105228592

and after a few seconds, the screen clears, and goes back to
> Debian GNU/Linux 8 Titan tty1
> 
> Titan login:

Or, at other times, when I punch it up on the KVM switch, I get a whole 
screen full of hard disk error messages.

It's pretty clear to me that the box is more-or-less shot anyway (even 
from the ssh session, if I try to "cd home," I get an error message), 
but can somebody tell me why I'm getting one behavior through ssh, and 
completely different behavior through a direct connection?

--
JHHL

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]


#219486 — Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2020-02-26 18:00 +0100
SubjectRe: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zE8cp-10f-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219484

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Feb 26, 2020, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> One of our Linux boxes is behaving oddly. If I ssh into it, I can connect
> easily, and I get:
> [...]
> 
> But if I go into the server cage, and punch it up on the KVM switch,
> and try to sign on as root, I get:

Are you ssh'ing in as root?  If not, is your user's $HOME on the
machine's failing disk, or another (remote?) drive?

-- 
|_|O|_| 
|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
|O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#219589 — Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

From"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com>
Date2020-02-27 19:40 +0100
SubjectRe: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zEweJ-7wO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219486
On 2/26/20 8:52 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Are you ssh'ing in as root?  If not, is your user's $HOME on the
> machine's failing disk, or another (remote?) drive?

and I replied (off-List, and *not* intentionally so):
> Yes. As root.
> 
> Oh, and one other thing, the thing that brought this to my attention in the first place: something in the server cage is emitting a faint beep (or perhaps a faint squeak of a dying hard drive), every second or so. I think it's coming from that selfsame box.

I signed on again via ssh, intending to just shut the thing down for 
good, and noticed two things:
1. "shutdown" didn't work
2. It was telling me I'd last signed on sometime in January, when in 
fact, I'd signed on yesterday.

Further investigation of #1 led me to find out that it was getting a 
disk error just trying to shut itself down.

It's clearly toast. So I did a hard shutdown (and disconnected the 
power, for good measure.

And it *was* the source of the faint beeping.

--
JHHL

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#219590 — Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2020-02-27 19:50 +0100
SubjectRe: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zEwop-7Ac-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219589

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Feb 27, 2020, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> On 2/26/20 8:52 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Are you ssh'ing in as root?  If not, is your user's $HOME on the
> > machine's failing disk, or another (remote?) drive?
> 
> and I replied (off-List, and *not* intentionally so):
> > Yes. As root.

Interesting that "root from SSH" would behave differently than "local
root".  That's news to me.

> [...]
> It's clearly toast. So I did a hard shutdown (and disconnected the power,
> for good measure.

Sounds like it won't be giving you any trouble for a few days (until if
you're like me, you see it unplugged and wonder why that is and ...)

-- 
|_|O|_| 
|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
|O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#219591 — Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2020-02-27 20:00 +0100
SubjectRe: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zEwy6-7DA-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219590
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Interesting that "root from SSH" would behave differently than "local
> root".  That's news to me.

Well, they run different programs, and read different config files.
A console login uses getty + login, and reads /etc/pam.d/login.  An
ssh login uses sshd, and reads /etc/pam.d/sshd.

If one of those files is damaged beyond recovery, it could affect
one type of login, but not the other.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#219592 — Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2020-02-27 20:30 +0100
SubjectRe: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly
Message-ID<zEx18-82R-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#219591

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Feb 27, 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Interesting that "root from SSH" would behave differently than "local
> > root".  That's news to me.
> 
> Well, they run different programs, and read different config files.
> A console login uses getty + login, and reads /etc/pam.d/login.  An
> ssh login uses sshd, and reads /etc/pam.d/sshd.

Thanks for the clarity.  I suppose I have to bump up console vs. ssh
logins higher on the list of "everything I need to learn about Linux"

-- 
|_|O|_| 
|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
|O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]


Back to top | Article view | linux.debian.user


csiph-web