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  Editing LXDE menus Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-08-11 21:00 +0200
    Re: Editing LXDE menus Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-08-11 21:20 +0200
      Re: Editing LXDE menus Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-08-11 22:50 +0200
        Re: Editing LXDE menus Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-08-12 09:10 +0200

#212652 — Editing LXDE menus

Hi All

Not sure if this is a 'feature' or 'bug'

I am using Debian 10 and LXDE desktop,  trying to edit the menu all i
get from the settings is a browse dialogue box to change the picture
that appears on the LXDE menu.

I have made a blog post to illustrate this

http://zleap.net/lxde-menu/

How exactly do users edit the menu.

I am trying to put a user hat on here. How can a user, with very little
technical experience, or maybe they have, but are coming from Windows,
or even Mint / other distribution undertake the simple task of editing
the menu and where items appear on the menu.

Like I have said in the post, please don't tell me to edit a
configuration file.

If we want to have a year of the Linux desktop this really does need to
be addressed.

Whole this is possibly a LXDE issue, it is also a Debian issue as LXDE
is part of Debian.


Just thought that I would ask.


Paul

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#212654

To reply to my previous post.  I did a little more digging and have
produced a 2nd blog post with the results :

http://zleap.net/lxde-menu-2/

Still got a few questions presented at the end. At least there is a nice
menu editor which I will have a deeper look at later.

Hope this helps

Paul

On 11/08/2019 19:57, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Not sure if this is a 'feature' or 'bug'
>
> I am using Debian 10 and LXDE desktop,  trying to edit the menu all i
> get from the settings is a browse dialogue box to change the picture
> that appears on the LXDE menu.
>
> I have made a blog post to illustrate this
>
> http://zleap.net/lxde-menu/
>
> How exactly do users edit the menu.
>
> I am trying to put a user hat on here. How can a user, with very little
> technical experience, or maybe they have, but are coming from Windows,
> or even Mint / other distribution undertake the simple task of editing
> the menu and where items appear on the menu.
>
> Like I have said in the post, please don't tell me to edit a
> configuration file.
>
> If we want to have a year of the Linux desktop this really does need to
> be addressed.
>
> Whole this is possibly a LXDE issue, it is also a Debian issue as LXDE
> is part of Debian.
>
>
> Just thought that I would ask.
>
>
> Paul
>
-- 
Paul Sutton
http://www.zleap.net
gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893  1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D

https://fediverse.party/ - zleap@social.isurf.ca

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#212658

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:19:07 +0100
Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:

> To reply to my previous post.  I did a little more digging and have
> produced a 2nd blog post with the results :
> 
> http://zleap.net/lxde-menu-2/
> 
> Still got a few questions presented at the end. At least there is a
> nice menu editor which I will have a deeper look at later.
> 

I used to use LXDE, but moved to Xfce when there were a few problems,
quite a few years ago now. As far as I recall, I used the same menu
editor then as now, alacarte. It has some gnome dependencies, but mainly
python, much of which you will already have installed.

I'd never heard of menulibre, it is certainly much more recent, and of
course looks much like alacarte as it does the same job.

I do recall in my LXDE days trying to display the Debian menu, which I
think is now deprecated, but which contained quite a few items not
shown by the Freedesktop menu structure. I remember a maze of twisty
little XML files, none of which seemed to work as advertised. If you
have 'Other' enabled on the main menu, you will know that it appears to
contain at least one entry for every application installed, which the
rest of the Freedesktop tree does not.

-- 
Joe

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#212668

On 11/08/2019 21:48, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:19:07 +0100
> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
> 
>> To reply to my previous post.  I did a little more digging and have
>> produced a 2nd blog post with the results :
>>
>> http://zleap.net/lxde-menu-2/
>>
>> Still got a few questions presented at the end. At least there is a
>> nice menu editor which I will have a deeper look at later.
>>
> 
> I used to use LXDE, but moved to Xfce when there were a few problems,
> quite a few years ago now. As far as I recall, I used the same menu
> editor then as now, alacarte. It has some gnome dependencies, but mainly
> python, much of which you will already have installed.
> 
> I'd never heard of menulibre, it is certainly much more recent, and of
> course looks much like alacarte as it does the same job.
> 
> I do recall in my LXDE days trying to display the Debian menu, which I
> think is now deprecated, but which contained quite a few items not
> shown by the Freedesktop menu structure. I remember a maze of twisty
> little XML files, none of which seemed to work as advertised. If you
> have 'Other' enabled on the main menu, you will know that it appears to
> contain at least one entry for every application installed, which the
> rest of the Freedesktop tree does not.
> 

Hi Joe

Thanks for this,  I agree there seems to be a few problems 'alacarte'
does not appear to be installed by default.  The debian menu structure
is still there though as part of the lxde menu (kinda gets confusing
that).

I do think that some free software naming conventions makes it very hard
to work out what a program actually does alacarte is not immediately
associated with menus.

It is in the debian 10 repository as

alacarte/stable 3.11.91-4 all
  easy GNOME menu editing tool

and yet does not come up if running

apt search lxde menu

So if the two are linked then they are not linked in such a way that
suggests alacarte is the editor for lxde menus.

Anyway to me this is just some oddity with the Linux systems generally.
 It is nice to see that KDE and GNOME will be working together perhaps
other front ends will start doing the same.

I like variety, but a menu editor that works is pretty essential for
many users.


Paul

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Paul Sutton
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