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Where do I find the Debian CAs?

Started byStephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net>
First post2019-08-06 10:20 +0200
Last post2019-08-07 16:40 +0200
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  Where do I find the Debian CAs? Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-08-06 10:20 +0200
    Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-08-06 13:00 +0200
      Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs? Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-08-07 12:00 +0200
        Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-08-07 16:40 +0200

#212303 — Where do I find the Debian CAs?

FromStephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net>
Date2019-08-06 10:20 +0200
SubjectWhere do I find the Debian CAs?
Message-ID<ys2Rk-8eg-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi!

I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering 
a certificate as a client:
Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”

I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be 
a package with internal CAs.

Where can I find them?

Shade and sweet water!

	Stephan

-- 
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#212305

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2019-08-06 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<ys5ma-1bg-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212303
Stephan Seitz wrote: 
> Hi!
> 
> I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering a certificate
> as a client:
> Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”
> 
> I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be a
> package with internal CAs.
> 
> Where can I find them?

dpkg -S /etc/ssl/certs

will show you:

ssl-cert, ca-certificates, openssl

-dsr-

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#212360

FromStephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net>
Date2019-08-07 12:00 +0200
Message-ID<ysqTD-6kh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212305
On Di, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:57:51 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>Stephan Seitz wrote:
>> I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering 
>> a certificate as a client:
>> Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”
>>
>> I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be a
>> package with internal CAs.
>>
>> Where can I find them?
>
>dpkg -S /etc/ssl/certs
>will show you:
>ssl-cert, ca-certificates, openssl

I think there is a misunderstanding. I know about /etc/ssl/certs, but 
there isn’t a Debian SMTP CA.

So I would like to know where I can download this CA (or others as well) 
and then put them in /etc/ssl/certs.

	Stephan

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#212369

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2019-08-07 16:40 +0200
Message-ID<ysvgB-Ge-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212360
Stephan Seitz wrote: 
> On Di, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:57:51 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Stephan Seitz wrote:
> > > I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering a
> > > certificate as a client:
> > > Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”
> > > 
> > > I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be a
> > > package with internal CAs.
> > > 
> > > Where can I find them?
> > 
> > dpkg -S /etc/ssl/certs
> > will show you:
> > ssl-cert, ca-certificates, openssl
> 
> I think there is a misunderstanding. I know about /etc/ssl/certs, but there
> isn’t a Debian SMTP CA.
> 
> So I would like to know where I can download this CA (or others as well) and
> then put them in /etc/ssl/certs.

Ah. You can't.

Connection converted to SSL
        SSLVersion in use: TLSv1_2
        Cipher in use: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
        Certificate 1 of 2 in chain: Cert VALIDATION ERROR(S):
self signed certificate in certificate chain
        So email is encrypted but the recipient domain is not
verified
        Cert Hostname VERIFIED (bendel.debian.org =
bendel.debian.org)
        

Not Valid Before: Apr  1 11:07:15 2019 GMT

        

Not Valid After: Mar 31 11:07:15 2020 GMT

        subject= /C=NA/ST=NA/L=Ankh Morpork/O=Debian
SMTP/OU=Debian SMTP CA/CN=bendel.debian.org
        issuer= /C=NA/ST=NA/L=Ankh Morpork/O=Debian
SMTP/OU=Debian SMTP CA/CN=Debian SMTP CA
        Certificate 2 of 2 in chain: Cert VALIDATION ERROR(S):
self signed certificate in certificate chain
        So email is encrypted but the recipient domain is not
verified
        

Not Valid Before: Mar 31 12:54:52 2019 GMT

        

Not Valid After: Mar 28 12:54:52 2029 GMT

        subject= /C=NA/ST=NA/L=Ankh Morpork/O=Debian
SMTP/OU=Debian SMTP CA/CN=Debian SMTP CA
        issuer= /C=NA/ST=NA/L=Ankh Morpork/O=Debian
SMTP/OU=Debian SMTP CA/CN=Debian SMTP CA

That's a self-signed cert. Note that it's from Ankh Morpork, a
city on the Discworld. You can't verify that, and they don't
expect you to be able to do so.

-dsr-

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