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hp-plugin fails

Started byPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
First post2019-08-01 15:40 +0200
Last post2019-08-03 13:30 +0200
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  hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 15:40 +0200
    Re: hp-plugin fails <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-01 16:20 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 01:20 +0200
    Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 16:40 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2019-08-01 18:10 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2019-08-01 18:20 +0200
          Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 20:10 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-01 20:10 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 20:10 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-01 19:30 +0200
    Re: hp-plugin fails Michael Kesper <mkesper@schokokeks.org> - 2019-08-01 16:40 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 16:50 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Michael Kesper <mkesper@schokokeks.org> - 2019-08-01 17:00 +0200
          Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 17:10 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 18:00 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 19:00 +0200
          Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 09:00 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 18:00 +0200
    Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 17:40 +0200
      Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 18:00 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 18:00 +0200
        Re: hp-plugin fails Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-08-01 18:10 +0200
          Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-01 20:00 +0200
            Re: hp-plugin fails Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-08-01 20:30 +0200
            Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 20:50 +0200
              Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 09:10 +0200
                Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 11:10 +0200
                  Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 12:40 +0200
                    Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 13:00 +0200
                      Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 13:10 +0200
                        Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 13:30 +0200
                          Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 13:50 +0200
                            Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 14:10 +0200
                              Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 15:30 +0200
                                Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 16:30 +0200
                                Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-03 10:00 +0200
            Re: hp-plugin fails Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-08-01 21:40 +0200
              Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-01 21:50 +0200
                Re: hp-plugin fails Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-08-02 10:10 +0200
                  Re: hp-plugin fails Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-02 10:50 +0200
              Re: hp-plugin fails mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-08-03 12:10 +0200
                Re: hp-plugin fails Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-08-03 13:30 +0200

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#212072

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-01 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<yqlEJ-DA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212071
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:50:03 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > The plugin can be downloaded from
> > 
> >  https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/
> 
>    after waiting several minutes, I get:
> 
>       this site can't be reached ... timed out

No problem here. Try

  https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins
 
> > and installed with the -p option of hp-plugin.
> 
>     and this gives, as usual:
> 
>    error: Unable to open /home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

There is no point in using 'hp-plugin -i -p .....' if the plugin has
not been downloaded.

-- 
Brian.

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#212075

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2019-08-01 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqlOp-Ww-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212071

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:50:03 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>>  https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/
>    after waiting several minutes, I get:
>       this site can't be reached ... timed out

I hate to say it, but it's likely your end.  I can connect without
problems.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I ain't got no time for intellectual music, e.g. Hergest Ridge
Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Boogie - Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias

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#212092

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-01 20:00 +0200
Message-ID<yqnwR-1PT-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212075
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote:

> I hate to say it, but it's likely your end.  I can connect without
> problems.

  I also hate to say that, but I can't connect!
  Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don't have a firewall.
  explain that who can.
  I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
  How many hops for you, with traceroute?
  for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
  before reaching the target.

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212100

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2019-08-01 20:30 +0200
Message-ID<yqnZT-2fG-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212092

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 19:56:27 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>  How many hops for you, with traceroute?

10

>  for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),

Perhaps unsurprisingly, that IP address doesn't appear in my hop list.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You suck my blood like a leech
Death On Two Legs - Queen

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#212103

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-01 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<yqojf-2mm-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212092
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:56:27 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote:
> 
> > I hate to say it, but it's likely your end.  I can connect without
> > problems.
> 
>  I also hate to say that, but I can't connect!
>  Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don't have a firewall.
>  explain that who can.
>  I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
>  How many hops for you, with traceroute?
>  for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
>  before reaching the target.

You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you
connect to that? A reminder:

https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins

-- 
Brian.

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#212127

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-02 09:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqzRo-1qA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212103
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:

> You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you
> connect to that? A reminder:
>
> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins

   It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before...

   It works fine, and I could download ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run
   I also installed all xxqt4xx packages
   But using this file looks like an April fool:


==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run
    Verifying archive integrity... All good.
    Uncompressing HPLIP 3.19.6 Plugin Self Extracting Archive..............................................................

    HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.19.6)
    Plugin Installer ver. 3.0

    Copyright (c) 2001-15 HP Development Company, LP
    This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
    This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
    under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

    Plug-in version: 3.19.6
    Installed HPLIP version: 3.19.6
    Number of files to install: 64

    error: Unable to load Qt4 support. Is it installed? Try running with -i or --qt3 instead.

==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run -1
    Unrecognized flag : -i
    Makeself version 2.1.5
     1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help   Print this message
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info   Print embedded info : title, default target directory, embedded script ...
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsm    Print embedded lsm entry (or no LSM)
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list   Print the list of files in the archive
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check  Checks integrity of the archive

     2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded script]
      with following options (in that order)
      --confirm             Ask before running embedded script
      --noexec              Do not run embedded script
      --keep                Do not erase target directory after running
             the embedded script
      --nox11               Do not spawn an xterm
      --nochown             Do not give the extracted files to the current user
      --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory
      --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar command
      --                    Following arguments will be passed to the embedded script

==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --qt3
    Unrecognized flag : --qt3
    Makeself version 2.1.5
     1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help   Print this message
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info   Print embedded info : title, default target directory, embedded script ...
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsm    Print embedded lsm entry (or no LSM)
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list   Print the list of files in the archive
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check  Checks integrity of the archive

     2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
      ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded script]
      with following options (in that order)
      --confirm             Ask before running embedded script
      --noexec              Do not run embedded script
      --keep                Do not erase target directory after running
             the embedded script
      --nox11               Do not spawn an xterm
      --nochown             Do not give the extracted files to the current user
      --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory
      --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar command
      --                    Following arguments will be passed to the embedded script


best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212132

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 11:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqBJw-2Da-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212127
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 09:09:11 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you
> > connect to that? A reminder:
> > 
> > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins
> 
>   It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before...

Maybe.

>   It works fine, and I could download ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run

Good.

>   I also installed all xxqt4xx packages

Not so good.

>   But using this file looks like an April fool:

[Snippage. The correct option to use with './hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run'
is given at https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp].

'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward
command to use to install the plugin.

(hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for
testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you
claim, on buster).

-- 
Brian.

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#212135

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-02 12:40 +0200
Message-ID<yqD8B-3pj-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212132
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:

>>   I also installed all xxqt4xx packages
>
> Not so good.

    agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them

> 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward
> command to use to install the plugin.
>
> (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for
> testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you
> claim, on buster).

   Actually, I am on buster: cat /etc/debian_version ==> 10.0
   I installed the correxponding version of hplip, which is now
      3.18.12+dfsg0-2
   but
     hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.18.12-plugin.run
   still gives:
     error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212139

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<yqDrX-3wm-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212135
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 12:36:46 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > >   I also installed all xxqt4xx packages
> > 
> > Not so good.
> 
>    agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them
> 
> > 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward
> > command to use to install the plugin.
> > 
> > (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for
> > testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you
> > claim, on buster).
> 
>   Actually, I am on buster: cat /etc/debian_version ==> 10.0
>   I installed the correxponding version of hplip, which is now
>      3.18.12+dfsg0-2
>   but
>     hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.18.12-plugin.run
>   still gives:
>     error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

Use the advice at

https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp

Omit the first and last steps in the instructions.

-- 
Brian.

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#212140

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-02 13:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqDBD-3Pl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212139
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:

> https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp
>
> Omit the first and last steps in the instructions.

  I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result.

I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that.

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212141

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 13:30 +0200
Message-ID<yqDV0-3Wr-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212140
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:02:34 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp
> > 
> > Omit the first and last steps in the instructions.
> 
>  I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result.
> 
> I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that.

A final try:

mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/

and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to
it.

-- 
Brian.

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#212142

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-02 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<yqEem-44U-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212141
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:

> A final try:
>
> mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/
>
> and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to
> it.

   that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with
   all the files you mention!

anyway, thank you for the time you spend to help people

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212144

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqExI-4rs-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212142
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:42:16 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > A final try:
> > 
> > mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/
> > 
> > and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to
> > it.
> 
>   that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with
>   all the files you mention!

So - you had the plugin installed already!

-- 
Brian.

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#212148

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-02 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<yqFN7-58W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212144
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:

> So - you had the plugin installed already!

  yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives:

     error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

and on my laptop, it opens a window saying:

    the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
    do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in?

which is more user friendly.

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212150

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<yqGJb-5JP-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212148
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 15:20:41 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
> 
> > So - you had the plugin installed already!
> 
>  yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives:
> 
>     error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.
> 
> and on my laptop, it opens a window saying:
> 
>    the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
>    do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in?
> 
> which is more user friendly.

You are assuming the first message (buster) is the equivalent of the
second message (stretch). I do not think they are connected. On my
unstable the lock file is put in $HOME/.hplip. There is also no top
level directory "/data".

-- 
Brian.

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#212169

FromPierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com>
Date2019-08-03 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<yqX7k-7yQ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212148
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:
>
>> So - you had the plugin installed already!
>
> yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives:
>
>    error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.
>
> and on my laptop, it opens a window saying:
>
>   the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
>   do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in?
>
> which is more user friendly.

   now, hp-plugin works (god knows why), and it installs the bb_ files
   in /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins, but if I call it again,
   it still proposes to install, instead of saying
        the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
   as on my laptop
   an other computing mystery...

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#212106

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-08-01 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<yqp5D-2SJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212092
On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:

>   I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
>   How many hops for you, with traceroute?
>   for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
>   before reaching the target.

I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either.


> best regards,


-- 
“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” 
― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

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#212110

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-01 21:50 +0200
Message-ID<yqpfj-2Wl-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212106
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -0000, Curt wrote:

> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >   I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
> >   How many hops for you, with traceroute?
> >   for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
> >   before reaching the target.
> 
> I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either.

That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act
togther.

Meanwhile, Pierre Frenkiel has another link to use.

-- 
Brian.

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#212128

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-08-02 10:10 +0200
Message-ID<yqANs-21Y-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212110
On 2019-08-01, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -0000, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >   I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
>> >   How many hops for you, with traceroute?
>> >   for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
>> >   before reaching the target.
>> 
>> I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either.
>
> That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act
> togther.

It wasn't an attempt to belittle your thorough and patient advice to a
person whose problems often seem to be *des puits sans fond*, but rather
a confirmation that more than one person can't get there from here.

I guess I could've refrained without much signal loss, but then again
people do pipe up and in for this sort of thing, after all, our fellow
human beings deriving solace somehow from the fact that they are not
alone.

> Meanwhile, Pierre Frenkiel has another link to use.
>

That brightens my day considerably (though I bet somehow it won't "work"
for Pierre)!

-- 
“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” 
― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

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#212131

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2019-08-02 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<yqBqa-2gd-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#212128
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 07:59:56 -0000, Curt wrote:

> On 2019-08-01, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -0000, Curt wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >   I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops.
> >> >   How many hops for you, with traceroute?
> >> >   for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
> >> >   before reaching the target.
> >> 
> >> I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either.
> >
> > That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act
> > togther.
> 
> It wasn't an attempt to belittle your thorough and patient advice to a
> person whose problems often seem to be *des puits sans fond*, but rather
> a confirmation that more than one person can't get there from here.

I assure you I did not take it that way. My remark was indicating (not
vey well) that ISPs occasionally have routeing problems.

> I guess I could've refrained without much signal loss, but then again
> people do pipe up and in for this sort of thing, after all, our fellow
> human beings deriving solace somehow from the fact that they are not
> alone.

Indeed.

-- 
Brian.

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