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  usenet connection Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 16:20 +0200
    Re: usenet connection Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 17:10 +0200
      Re: usenet connection Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 17:20 +0200
        Re: usenet connection rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-07-20 17:40 +0200
        Re: usenet connection Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 18:10 +0200
          Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via  Flask/cgi/Django) deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-24 20:40 +0200
            Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page  (not via Flask/cgi/Django) Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> - 2019-07-25 23:20 +0200
              Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not  via Flask/cgi/Django) Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2019-07-26 00:50 +0200
                Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not  via Flask/cgi/Django) deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-26 05:30 +0200
                  Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not  via Flask/cgi/Django) Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2019-07-26 05:30 +0200
                    Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not  via Flask/cgi/Django) deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-26 23:50 +0200
          nemo, no error-crashes [in Stretch] deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-25 01:00 +0200
            Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch] deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-28 17:10 +0200
              Re: Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-28 17:30 +0200
                Re: Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch] deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-07-30 14:50 +0200
        Re: usenet connection Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-20 18:40 +0200
    Re: usenet connection Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-20 18:30 +0200
      Re: usenet connection Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 18:40 +0200
    Re: usenet connection Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> - 2019-07-20 19:00 +0200
      Re: usenet connection Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-21 10:00 +0200
    Re: usenet connection solved Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> - 2019-07-22 02:50 +0200

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#211565 — usenet connection

for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
to get a usenet connection.

today i get :
Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
"news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
"news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)

any ideas?

tia

charles zeitler
-- 
 The Perfect Is The Enemy Of
 The Good Enough

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#211566

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500
Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:

> for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
> to get a usenet connection.
> 
> today i get :
> Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
> "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
> Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
> "news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)
> 
> any ideas?

Maybe news server is down or too many connected or a DOS attack?  Have
you tried connecting at other times or on different days?

B

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#211567

thanks for your reply.

i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:00 AM Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500
> Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
> > to get a usenet connection.
> >
> > today i get :
> > Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
> > "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
> > Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
> > "news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)
> >
> > any ideas?
>
> Maybe news server is down or too many connected or a DOS attack?  Have
> you tried connecting at other times or on different days?
>
> B
>


-- 
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 The Good Enough

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#211569

On Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:14:39 AM Charles Zeitler wrote:
> thanks for your reply.
> 
> i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation.

I can understand your reluctance to mention Windows on this list, but that is 
some useful / key information that would avoid going down some blind alleys in 
the troubleshooting process.

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#211572

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 10:14:39 -0500
Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks for your reply.
> 
> i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation.

Do a Google search to see if others are having the same problem.  Could
be the news supplier changed its configurations without notifying you.
Check your firewall settings.  Contact your Usenet supplier admin with
the problem, particularly if you're paying for the service.  I always
used free Usenet services.  Never had a problem.

B

> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:00 AM Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500
> > Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
> > > to get a usenet connection.
> > >
> > > today i get :
> > > Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
> > > "news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
> > > Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
> > > "news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)
> > >
> > > any ideas?  
> >
> > Maybe news server is down or too many connected or a DOS attack?  Have
> > you tried connecting at other times or on different days?
> >
> > B
> >  
> 
> 

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#211708 — Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

I have a large static html/AJAX .js apache2 site.

If I want to have a server-side script just to
handle a contact <form> and push mail out;
is there a non-(Django/cgi**/Flask) way to
run a small Python3 script to do this?

The python3 mail script already works standalone (tests out fine from 
CLI, on the server).

I'd rather not Flask out the whole website just to get the ability to 
run one .py script for contact mail.

I'd rather not add .php to the server just to do this contact form.

** /cgi-bin to run the single python3 script is deprecated [Correct?].

It is a straight-up HTML5 form ... that USED to post to .aspx.
<form method="POST"  id='contactForm' action="  ?  " >


While I would prefer the answer to be python-ish,
it does to Have to be python.


Thank you!

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#211736 — Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:16:09PM -0400, deb wrote:
> 
> I have a large static html/AJAX .js apache2 site.
> 
> If I want to have a server-side script just to
> handle a contact <form> and push mail out;
> is there a non-(Django/cgi**/Flask) way to
> run a small Python3 script to do this?

What not cgi? Isn't that the original and minimal
way to accomplish this? 

> The python3 mail script already works standalone (tests out fine from CLI,
> on the server).
> 
> I'd rather not Flask out the whole website just to get the ability to run
> one .py script for contact mail.
> 
> I'd rather not add .php to the server just to do this contact form.
> 
> ** /cgi-bin to run the single python3 script is deprecated [Correct?].

Supported by existing protocols and running millions of
websites.

cheers

> It is a straight-up HTML5 form ... that USED to post to .aspx.
> <form method="POST"  id='contactForm' action="  ?  " >
> 
> 
> While I would prefer the answer to be python-ish,
> it does to Have to be python.
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Joel Roth

"Welcome to the World Heat Bank, where we store your waste
energy and return it with interest."

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#211737 — Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

On 7/25/19 5:06 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:16:09PM -0400, deb wrote:
>> I have a large static html/AJAX .js apache2 site.
>>
>> If I want to have a server-side script just to
>> handle a contact <form> and push mail out;
>> is there a non-(Django/cgi**/Flask) way to
>> run a small Python3 script to do this?
> What not cgi? Isn't that the original and minimal
> way to accomplish this?
>
>> The python3 mail script already works standalone (tests out fine from CLI,
>> on the server).
>>
>> I'd rather not Flask out the whole website just to get the ability to run
>> one .py script for contact mail.
>>
>> I'd rather not add .php to the server just to do this contact form.
>>
>> ** /cgi-bin to run the single python3 script is deprecated [Correct?].
> Supported by existing protocols and running millions of
> websites.
>
> cheers
>
>> It is a straight-up HTML5 form ... that USED to post to .aspx.
>> <form method="POST"  id='contactForm' action="  ?  " >
>>
>>
>> While I would prefer the answer to be python-ish,
>> it does to Have to be python.
>>
>>
Is there any specific reason you don't just use mod_python, to remove 
the overhead of a CGI script?

-- 
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#211740 — Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

On 7/25/19 6:45 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 7/25/19 5:06 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:16:09PM -0400, deb wrote:
>>> I have a large static html/AJAX .js apache2 site.
>>>
>>> If I want to have a server-side script just to
>>> handle a contact <form> and push mail out;
>>> is there a non-(Django/cgi**/Flask) way to
>>> run a small Python3 script to do this?
>> What not cgi? Isn't that the original and minimal
>> way to accomplish this?
>>
>>> The python3 mail script already works standalone (tests out fine 
>>> from CLI,
>>> on the server).
>>>
>>> I'd rather not Flask out the whole website just to get the ability 
>>> to run
>>> one .py script for contact mail.
>>>
>>> I'd rather not add .php to the server just to do this contact form.
>>>
>>> ** /cgi-bin to run the single python3 script is deprecated [Correct?].
>> Supported by existing protocols and running millions of
>> websites.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>> It is a straight-up HTML5 form ... that USED to post to .aspx.
>>> <form method="POST"  id='contactForm' action="  ?  " >
>>>
>>>
>>> While I would prefer the answer to be python-ish,
>>> it does to Have to be python.
>>>
>>>
> Is there any specific reason you don't just use mod_python, to remove 
> the overhead of a CGI script?
>
Lack of knowledge only.

If I can use mod_python to get that one script to run, I'd be mighty happy.

I could not find an example of that, searching around.


Thanks

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#211741 — Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

On 7/25/19 11:23 PM, deb wrote:
>
> On 7/25/19 6:45 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>>
>> Is there any specific reason you don't just use mod_python, to remove 
>> the overhead of a CGI script?
>>
> Lack of knowledge only.
>
> If I can use mod_python to get that one script to run, I'd be mighty 
> happy.
>
> I could not find an example of that, searching around.
>
What do you want to do that you can't manage by extending the hello.py 
example right on this page?

http://modpython.org/python10/

-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com

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#211786 — Re: Programming pointer? -- options to run Python3 from web page (not via Flask/cgi/Django)

On 7/25/19 11:27 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 7/25/19 11:23 PM, deb wrote:
>>
>> On 7/25/19 6:45 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any specific reason you don't just use mod_python, to 
>>> remove the overhead of a CGI script?
>>>
>> Lack of knowledge only.
>>
>> If I can use mod_python to get that one script to run, I'd be mighty 
>> happy.
>>
>> I could not find an example of that, searching around.
>>
> What do you want to do that you can't manage by extending the hello.py 
> example right on this page?
>
> http://modpython.org/python10/
>

Thank you Carl

This is the right idea for what I'm looking for.

Something just to execute a given, simple, .py file.
In my case, the baskend for a contact form.

mod_python (looks to) require pulling from github, compiling, and 
several steps to get into place.

It also hasn't been updated since 2013 -- so I need to look at any 
security-related impacts.

This answer will end up on a production server,
running other sites (including a Flask one),
so I want to go slowly into mod_python to make sure it drops in seamlessly.

Thank you!

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#211718 — nemo, no error-crashes [in Stretch]

on Debian Stretch 9.8 to 9.9,
has anyone else run into nemo just flat out crashing?

No errors shown at crash.
No errors that I can dig out in logs.

nemo just flat out "goes away", often at the end of completing a copy. 
Sometimes just when tapping a folder. No set type of copy. No set folder.


If more than one nemo is open -- they all go away at the same time.


No such error from nautilus.

  * Memory usage is generally 30% at all times.
  * Plenty of swap space.


I was just wondering if other folks have seen this -- because I did not 
catch it mentioned in the lists' subject-lines.


Thank you.

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#211828 — Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch]

(Just trying this one again. No one else has seen this?)



on Debian Stretch 9.8 to 9.9 --has anyone else run into nemo just flat 
out crashing?

No errors shown at crash.
No errors that I can dig out in logs.
nemo just "goes away", often at the end of completing a copy. Sometimes 
just when tapping a folder.
No set type of copy.
No set folder.


If more than one nemo is open -- they all go away at the same time.

  * Memory usage is generally 30% at all times.
  * Plenty of swap space.


No such error from nautilus.

I was just wondering if other folks have seen this -- because I did not 
catch it mentioned here.

Thoughts on where to look for the cause would be welcomed.

Thank you.

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#211829 — Re: Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch]

On 2019-07-28, deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> wrote:
> (Just trying this one again. No one else has seen this?)
>
>
>
> on Debian Stretch 9.8 to 9.9 --has anyone else run into nemo just flat 
> out crashing?
>

Martin ran into it.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=869165


-- 
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― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

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#211915 — Re: Fwd: nemo crashes with no error [in Stretch]

On 7/28/19 11:21 AM, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-28, deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> wrote:
>> (Just trying this one again. No one else has seen this?)
>>
>>
>>
>> on Debian Stretch 9.8 to 9.9 --has anyone else run into nemo just flat
>> out crashing?
>>
> Martin ran into it.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=869165
>
>

Thank you Curt.

There's at least stuff there for me to dig into.

:)

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#211581

On 2019-07-20, Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks for your reply.
>
> i didn't want to say this, but i get connected on my windows installation.
>

Have you tried any of the ipv4 addresses, rather than a ipv6 one
(perhaps unrelated, but I saw a straw and I grabbed it).

 eunews.frugalusenet.com or eunews2.frugalusenet.com

-- 
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― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

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#211576

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On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500
Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Charles,

>Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
>"news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
>Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
>"news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)

Have you tried any of the other ports they allow?  For an SSL connect,
5563 is also allowed.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#211580

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:21 AM Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:11:40 -0500
> Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Charles,
>
> >Sat Jul 20 08:59:46 2019 - Error connecting to
> >"news-v6.frugalusenet.com:563" (Cannot assign requested address)
> >Sat Jul 20 09:02:02 2019 - Error connecting to
> >"news.frugalusenet.com:563" (Connection timed out)
>
> Have you tried any of the other ports they allow?  For an SSL connect,
> 5563 is also allowed.

same lack of results

>
> --
>  Regards  _
>          / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Do you want to play?
> Play With Me - Extreme



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 The Perfect Is The Enemy Of
 The Good Enough

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#211582

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
> to get a usenet connection.

can someone tell me how to confirm
sudo systemctl stop firewalld.service?

charles zeitler
-- 
 The Perfect Is The Enemy Of
 The Good Enough

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#211601

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On Sb, 20 iul 19, 11:50:45, Charles Zeitler wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM Charles Zeitler <cfzeitler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > for a couple of days it sufficed me to stop firewalld service
> > to get a usenet connection.
> 
> can someone tell me how to confirm
> sudo systemctl stop firewalld.service?

For typical services the output of 'systemctl status <service>' is very 
useful.

In this particular case, you should also check what firewalld does to 
your firewall rules on stopping. It could clear them, set them to some 
"default" state or something similar.


Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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