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Re: chromebook

Started byGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
First post2019-07-09 19:00 +0200
Last post2019-07-17 09:10 +0200
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  Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-09 19:00 +0200
    Re: chromebook Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-10 02:20 +0200
    Re: chromebook John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-10 03:40 +0200
      Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 06:30 +0200
        Re: chromebook Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-07-10 09:20 +0200
        Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-10 09:30 +0200
          Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 22:00 +0200
      Re: chromebook Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 08:40 +0200
        Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-10 15:10 +0200
          Re: mutt vs HTML (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 16:10 +0200
        Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 05:50 +0200
          Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 08:30 +0200
            Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 09:00 +0200
              Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
              Re: HTML mail Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:10 +0200
                  Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 11:20 +0200
                    Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 11:40 +0200
                      Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                        Re: HTML mail Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-11 16:10 +0200
                        Re: HTML mail Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-11 19:00 +0200
                        Re: HTML mail Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2019-07-11 20:20 +0200
                    Re: HTML mail John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 14:30 +0200
                      Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
                        Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 18:00 +0200
                        Re: HTML mail Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-07-11 21:30 +0200
                          Re: HTML mail tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-07-12 09:30 +0200
                      Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                      Re: HTML mail David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-11 17:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 13:20 +0200
    Re: chromebook Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 04:40 +0200
      Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:30 +0200
        Re: Own MTA is hard (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-11 10:40 +0200
          Re: Own MTA is hard (was: chromebook) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:50 +0200
        Re: chromebook John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 18:40 +0200
          Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 09:40 +0200
            Re: chromebook Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-12 10:00 +0200
              Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 10:40 +0200
            [Off-topic] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-12 16:00 +0200
              Re: [Off-topic] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 16:30 +0200
              Re: [Off-topic] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
                Re: [Off-topic] Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 04:20 +0200
                  Re: [Off-topic] Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 18:30 +0200
      Re: chromebook rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-07-11 14:00 +0200
        Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
          Re: chromebook Keith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 06:30 +0200
            Re: chromebook Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 06:50 +0200
              Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-17 09:10 +0200

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#211308 — Re: [Off-topic]

FromReco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
Date2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [Off-topic]
Message-ID<yj73P-5B3-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211299
	Hi.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:52:57AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > To me, Bigcorp is like state (minus First Amendment).
> 
> Businesses don't have armies.

Or do they?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide

Reco

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#211434 — Re: [Off-topic]

FromDiagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net>
Date2019-07-17 04:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [Off-topic]
Message-ID<ykHHX-7Pg-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211308
On 7/12/19 9:57 AM, Reco wrote:

> 	Hi.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:52:57AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>>> To me, Bigcorp is like state (minus First Amendment).
>>
>> Businesses don't have armies.
> 
> Or do they?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide

They now even have mini-states, thanks to the Kochs and the Cato Institute:

https://www.alternet.org/2015/01/nightmare-libertarian-project-push-one-central-american-country-through-massive-privitization/

> Reco

Dave.

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#211482 — Re: [Off-topic]

FromNicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com>
Date2019-07-17 18:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [Off-topic]
Message-ID<ykUYx-7zt-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211434

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On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:14 PM Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> wrote:

> On 7/12/19 9:57 AM, Reco wrote:
>
> >       Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:52:57AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> >>> To me, Bigcorp is like state (minus First Amendment).
> >>
> >> Businesses don't have armies.
> >
> > Or do they?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide
>
> They now even have mini-states, thanks to the Kochs and the Cato Institute:
>

Well, they have a maxi-state too. The takeover is not yet 100% but quite
close:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

One of the turning points was the legal precedent that corporations were
separate legal entities.
After that, the people in charge of them could not be personally held
legally responsible for their
actions as corporate officers. Only the paper corporation. So for example
no pharmaceutical
executive will go to prison for pushing narcotics on Americans. Only the
paper corp will have to pay damages,
and they will write-off their losses on their taxes. So the American
taxpayer picks up their tab.
Rich men and women skate again :-)


>
> https://www.alternet.org/2015/01/nightmare-libertarian-project-push-one-central-american-country-through-massive-privitization/
>
> > Reco
>
> Dave.
>
>

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#211215

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2019-07-11 14:00 +0200
Message-ID<yiFTX-5u4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211195
On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:33:58 PM Kenneth Parker wrote:
> So now,
> Google is running the Internet?  Those Universe emails were DEFINITELY text
> only!

For quite a while -- they decide what goes in your (well, their) spam folder, 
and, quite often, if someone else decides something is spam for them, Google 
assumes it is spam for you as well.  

I'm not clear on exactly the circumstances of how that happens, it seems I can 
undo it by clicking on a message and saying not spam.  I haven't kept records, 
but I'm sure that has become undone, presumably when somebody else marks the 
same thing as spam.

(And one bad example of this is when somebody is subscribes to a mail list, 
later decides they are not interested, and marks it as spam (in Google) 
instead of unsubscribing.)

I'm sure all of us you use (or have used) gmail are aware of this, but those 
who haven't used gmail may not be.

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#211219

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
Message-ID<yiGGl-608-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211215

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 07:53:12AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:33:58 PM Kenneth Parker wrote:
> > So now,
> > Google is running the Internet?  Those Universe emails were DEFINITELY text
> > only!
> 
> For quite a while -- they decide what goes in your (well, their) spam folder, 
> and, quite often, if someone else decides something is spam for them, Google 
> assumes it is spam for you as well.  

Enough reasons to change mail provider. Ad industry is out to influence our
perception of the world (systematically and scientifically at least since
the 1920s [1]). It seems to me a bad idea to let some entity from that hostile
planet into the very core of our communications.

But, of course, each one decides for herself.

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

-- t

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#211437

FromKeith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com>
Date2019-07-17 06:30 +0200
Message-ID<ykJJL-BS-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211219

On 11/7/19 10:44 pm, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Enough reasons to change mail provider.



Good afternoon All

I agree, but every time I look around, I find only other mega corporate 
operators that offer realistic data storage limits.


I'd be interested in some suggestions, please.



Keith Bainbridge

keithrbau@gmail.com
+61 (0)447 667 468

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#211438

FromDiagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net>
Date2019-07-17 06:50 +0200
Message-ID<ykK37-Io-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211437
>>> On 11/7/19 10:44 pm, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> Enough reasons to change mail provider.
>> 
>> I agree, but every time I look around, I find only other mega corporate
>> operators that offer realistic data storage limits.
> 
> I'd be interested in some suggestions, please
https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

> Keith Bainbridge

Dave.

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#211441

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2019-07-17 09:10 +0200
Message-ID<ykMeC-2dK-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#211438

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On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 09:46:08PM -0700, Diagonal Arg wrote:
> 
> >>> On 11/7/19 10:44 pm, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >>> Enough reasons to change mail provider.
> >> 
> >> I agree, but every time I look around, I find only other mega corporate
> >> operators that offer realistic data storage limits.
> > 
> > I'd be interested in some suggestions, please
> https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

You beat me to it :-)

Thanks
-- t

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