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  buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel? Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 20:20 +0200
    Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel? Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2019-07-10 20:30 +0200
      Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel? Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 20:40 +0200
    Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel? Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 21:40 +0200
      Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel? Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 03:40 +0200

#211172 — buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

Hello,

After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for
autoremoval.  While I am not familiar with exactly what it does,
reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does
make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that
4.19.0-4 made me have...)

Did I miss something?

Cheers!

-- 
Boyan Penkov

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#211173

On 2019-07-10 14:15 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote:

> After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for
> autoremoval.

That is correct.

> While I am not familiar with exactly what it does,
> reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does
> make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that
> 4.19.0-4 made me have...)
>
> Did I miss something?

For the reason why irqbalance is no longer recommended, see
https://bugs.debian.org/926967.

Cheers,
       Sven

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#211175

On 7/10/19 2:28 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2019-07-10 14:15 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote:
>
>> After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for
>> autoremoval.
> That is correct.
>
>> While I am not familiar with exactly what it does,
>> reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does
>> make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that
>> 4.19.0-4 made me have...)
>>
>> Did I miss something?
> For the reason why irqbalance is no longer recommended, see
> https://bugs.debian.org/926967.

Debian email list justice is swift and merciless -- and I should read 
the bug reports... ;)

Thanks kindly!
>
> Cheers,
>         Sven
>

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#211181

On 7/10/19, Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for
> autoremoval.  While I am not familiar with exactly what it does,
> reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does
> make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that
> 4.19.0-4 made me have...)
>
> Did I miss something?


Hi.. I can't answer specifically what you're asking there at the very
end, BUT you *might* be able to delay that message with something I
tripped over a long time ago.

The Cliff's Notes version: apt-mark ("man apt-mark" could possibly be
your new friend). I just test drove it:

# apt-mark manual gnome-sudoku
gnome-sudoku was already set to manually installed.

So it looks like #ItWORKS!

You can see what, if anything, is already set as manually installed by running:

$ apt-mark showmanual

If you have a LONG list (mine is due to an unfortunate incident last
month, GRIN), you can perform a very simple "grep", too:

$ apt-mark showmanual | grep gnome
gnome-desktop3-data
gnome-sudoku
libgnome-desktop-3-17

Oop, just remembered I have (had!) 2 packages showing as autoremovable
so I test drove:

# apt-mark manual python3-colorama
python3-colorama set to manually installed.

And now just pretended to install aqemu. That python3-colorama package
is no longer declared removable as part of the *noise* that sometimes
appears during package installations. It *really* works!

.....Now the long, boring version written before the above was re-found online:

*Some* packages, *_not all_*, will issue some version of a "now set as
manually installed" feedback statement if you accidentally try to
install an already installed *dependency" type package.

About two weeks ago, I have forgotten where, but I FINALLY saw that
the "manually installed" message is, in part, saying... Ok, it looks
like you have a special attachment to, a special interest in THIS
package... So I won't bother you about THIS package anymore if it ever
shows up on *my* (apt's/apt-get's) list as a dependency that is no
longer needed for anything else to function properly.

"apt-get install" is where I see the [now set to/as manually
installed] message. It's possible it works for "apt install", too, but
I can't real quick come up with a test package to know for sure.

And, like I *tried* to say in some form, apparently the beauty of that
"now manually installed" advisement is that the packages that present
that notice theoretically should NOT show up where you're seeing
irqbalance just this moment in time. I've just never had a test case
to test drive that theory.

One potential, very useful purpose for the "now manually installed"
feature would be for a developer who maybe regularly, *momentarily*
leans on a dependency package while developing their own.

Having remembered about apt-mark's existence, I just got to delete 3
more paragraphs that were sitting right here. *yay!*

Have fun!

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *

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#211194

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Boyan Penkov
www.boyanpenkov.com

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 15:30, Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 7/10/19, Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for
>> autoremoval.  While I am not familiar with exactly what it does,
>> reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does
>> make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that
>> 4.19.0-4 made me have...)
>> 
>> Did I miss something?
> 
> 
> Hi.. I can't answer specifically what you're asking there at the very
> end, BUT you *might* be able to delay that message with something I
> tripped over a long time ago.
> 
> The Cliff's Notes version: apt-mark ("man apt-mark" could possibly be
> your new friend). I just test drove it:
> 
> # apt-mark manual gnome-sudoku
> gnome-sudoku was already set to manually installed.
> 
> So it looks like #ItWORKS!
> 
> You can see what, if anything, is already set as manually installed by running:
> 
> $ apt-mark showmanual
> 
> If you have a LONG list (mine is due to an unfortunate incident last
> month, GRIN), you can perform a very simple "grep", too:
> 
> $ apt-mark showmanual | grep gnome
> gnome-desktop3-data
> gnome-sudoku
> libgnome-desktop-3-17
> 
> Oop, just remembered I have (had!) 2 packages showing as autoremovable
> so I test drove:
> 
> # apt-mark manual python3-colorama
> python3-colorama set to manually installed.
> 
> And now just pretended to install aqemu. That python3-colorama package
> is no longer declared removable as part of the *noise* that sometimes
> appears during package installations. It *really* works!
> 
> .....Now the long, boring version written before the above was re-found online:
> 
> *Some* packages, *_not all_*, will issue some version of a "now set as
> manually installed" feedback statement if you accidentally try to
> install an already installed *dependency" type package.
> 
> About two weeks ago, I have forgotten where, but I FINALLY saw that
> the "manually installed" message is, in part, saying... Ok, it looks
> like you have a special attachment to, a special interest in THIS
> package... So I won't bother you about THIS package anymore if it ever
> shows up on *my* (apt's/apt-get's) list as a dependency that is no
> longer needed for anything else to function properly.
> 
> "apt-get install" is where I see the [now set to/as manually
> installed] message. It's possible it works for "apt install", too, but
> I can't real quick come up with a test package to know for sure.
> 
> And, like I *tried* to say in some form, apparently the beauty of that
> "now manually installed" advisement is that the packages that present
> that notice theoretically should NOT show up where you're seeing
> irqbalance just this moment in time. I've just never had a test case
> to test drive that theory.
> 
> One potential, very useful purpose for the "now manually installed"
> feature would be for a developer who maybe regularly, *momentarily*
> leans on a dependency package while developing their own.
> 
> Having remembered about apt-mark's existence, I just got to delete 3
> more paragraphs that were sitting right here. *yay!*
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Cindy :)

Hey Cindy — thanks for the very insightful message; I was hacking up apt-mark’s functionality by using synaptic and looking at the (manual) packages, but this seems a much more ready way to go.  I’ll def check it out.

Cheers!

> -- 
> Cindy-Sue Causey
> Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
> 
> * runs with birdseed *
> 

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