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  Libreoffice menu font sizes Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-07-09 14:40 +0200
    Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-07-09 15:40 +0200
      Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-07-09 23:50 +0200
        Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-07-10 01:00 +0200
          Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-07-10 02:10 +0200
            Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-07-10 15:20 +0200
              Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-07-10 19:00 +0200
                Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-07-10 20:40 +0200
                  Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-07-10 21:40 +0200
      Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-07-10 14:40 +0200

#211076 — Libreoffice menu font sizes

Hi

Under stretch I managed to sort out the font sizes for the menus,
partly as I have a netbook with a small screen so wanted to adjust the
menu text size and other fonts accordingly

I put some instructions for Libreoffice 5.2 here

http://zleap.net/libreoffice-font-sizes/

However, post Debian update to Buster the same dialogue box under Buster
(Libreoffice 6.x) looks different and I can't find the scaling option.
The fonts have also gone back to their default setting size.

Can anyone help please.

I'll keep looking. Just thought I would ask.

Thanks

Paul
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#211080

Paul Sutton:
> [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x]
> [....]  I can't find the scaling option.

LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the
gtk3 settings now.
You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications,
including LibreOffice, in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
Create this file if it does not exist.

Mine contains this:

[Settings]
gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 11

Note that the '[Settings]' line preceding gtk-font-name is mandatory.

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#211112

Siard wrote:
> Paul Sutton:
>> [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x]
>> [....]  I can't find the scaling option.
>
> LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the
> gtk3 settings now.
> You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications,
> including LibreOffice, in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
> Create this file if it does not exist.
>
> Mine contains this:
>
> [Settings]
> gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 11
>
> Note that the '[Settings]' line preceding gtk-font-name is mandatory.
>

  thank you for this, but it doesn't seem to accomplish anything
in the MATE desktop (in debian testing).  not sure it can?

  unfortunately this change to the office suite to remove the
scaling ability makes it pretty hard to use the menus of the
applications.  luckily i don't need them that often, but it 
has been annoying me since they changed it.

  any ideas?


  songbird

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#211117

songbird:
> Siard wrote:
> > Paul Sutton:
> > > [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x]
> > > [....]  I can't find the scaling option.
> >
> > LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the
> > gtk3 settings now.
> > You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications,
> > including LibreOffice, in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
> > Create this file if it does not exist.
> >
> > Mine contains this:
> >
> > [Settings]
> > gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 11
> >
> > Note that the '[Settings]' line preceding gtk-font-name is
> > mandatory.
>
>   thank you for this, but it doesn't seem to accomplish anything
> in the MATE desktop (in debian testing).  not sure it can?

I use Openbox, which does not affect these settings.
MATE is a desktop that overrules them and uses its own.

So in testing (called 'Bullseye' since a few days) I did manage to set
the LibreOffice 6.x menu font and font size in MATE.

System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'.
Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size.

> unfortunately this change to the office suite to remove the scaling
> ability makes it pretty hard to use the menus of the applications.
> luckily i don't need them that often, but it has been annoying me
> since they changed it.

Note that the settings mentioned here not only affect the menu font of
LibreOffice, but all other gtk3 applications as well (Evince and
Liferea, for example), who get exactly the same menu fonts. So in fact
I do not see any need for that 'scaling' option.

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#211121

Siard wrote:
> songbird:
>> Siard wrote:
>> > Paul Sutton:
>> > > [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x]
>> > > [....]  I can't find the scaling option.
>> >
>> > LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the
>> > gtk3 settings now.
>> > You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications,
>> > including LibreOffice, in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
>> > Create this file if it does not exist.
>> >
>> > Mine contains this:
>> >
>> > [Settings]
>> > gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 11
>> >
>> > Note that the '[Settings]' line preceding gtk-font-name is
>> > mandatory.
>>
>>   thank you for this, but it doesn't seem to accomplish anything
>> in the MATE desktop (in debian testing).  not sure it can?
>
> I use Openbox, which does not affect these settings.
> MATE is a desktop that overrules them and uses its own.
>
> So in testing (called 'Bullseye' since a few days) I did manage to set
> the LibreOffice 6.x menu font and font size in MATE.
>
> System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'.
> Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size.
>
>> unfortunately this change to the office suite to remove the scaling
>> ability makes it pretty hard to use the menus of the applications.
>> luckily i don't need them that often, but it has been annoying me
>> since they changed it.
>
> Note that the settings mentioned here not only affect the menu font of
> LibreOffice, but all other gtk3 applications as well (Evince and
> Liferea, for example), who get exactly the same menu fonts. So in fact
> I do not see any need for that 'scaling' option.

  yes, i have that set and it does not change the office menu
font size.  thank you for the reply,


  songbird

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#211159

songbird:
> Siard:
> > [MATE] System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'.
> > Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size.
>
> yes, i have that set and it does not change the office menu font size.

Strange. It works here. I can show where I increased the menu font size,
I have it indicated by a red arrow:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4ZffzH8/menufonts1.jpg

After changing 11 to 16, the difference in the menu font size in
LibreOffice is clearly visible:
https://i.postimg.cc/76s73MnW/menufonts2.jpg

So if this does not work for you, I have no idea what the cause could be.

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#211169

Siard wrote:
> songbird:
>> Siard:
>> > [MATE] System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'.
>> > Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size.
>>
>> yes, i have that set and it does not change the office menu font size.
>
> Strange. It works here. I can show where I increased the menu font size,
> I have it indicated by a red arrow:
> https://i.postimg.cc/W4ZffzH8/menufonts1.jpg
>
> After changing 11 to 16, the difference in the menu font size in
> LibreOffice is clearly visible:
> https://i.postimg.cc/76s73MnW/menufonts2.jpg
>
> So if this does not work for you, I have no idea what the cause could be.

  the font within the application is larger, but the menu
fonts do not change.  not sure why either.  i may have 
broken something somewhere or the theme i'm using may not
be working with that for some reason.  what theme are you
using?

  when the change first came through in testing i looked 
into why it was changed (going to the office bug tracker
and searching) and how it might be made larger but i never 
had any luck getting it back to working  i haven't 
revisited the topic since then nor had time to research 
it.  gardening season tends to consume my energy for such
things.

  i know nothing of where office stores settings or how to 
reset them to defaults, but i'd be ok with wiping them
clear and starting over to see if that is the problem.

  i'm just asking these things in case anyone knows offhand.

  songbird

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#211176

songbird wrote:
> the font within the application is larger, but the menu fonts do not
> change.  not sure why either.  i may have broken something somewhere
> or the theme i'm using may not be working with that for some reason.
> what theme are you using?

I tried several themes in MATE, but they all work well.
The LO menu font changes immediately, even without restarting LO.

At the internet I see several people having the same issue.
"menu fonts to small in libreoffice 6"
"How to increase only LibreOffice horizontal menu font"
"How do I enlarge LibreOffice menu font?"
"libreoffice menu font too small"
etcetera.

You might find an answer there.
Do you have the libreoffice-gtk3 package installed??
If not, installing it might solve the issue.

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#211182

Siard wrote:
...
> Do you have the libreoffice-gtk3 package installed??
> If not, installing it might solve the issue.

  that was exactly it!  thank you so much.  :)


  songbird

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#211156

On 09/07/2019 14:28, Siard wrote:
> Paul Sutton:
>> [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x]
>> [....]  I can't find the scaling option.
> LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the
> gtk3 settings now.
> You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications,
> including LibreOffice, in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
> Create this file if it does not exist.
>
> Mine contains this:
>
> [Settings]
> gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 11
>
> Note that the '[Settings]' line preceding gtk-font-name is mandatory.
>

Thank you for this,  very much appreciated.

Regards

Paul

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