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Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again)

Started byGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
First post2019-05-03 15:40 +0200
Last post2019-06-22 20:10 +0200
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  Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-03 15:40 +0200
    Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again) john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-05-03 15:50 +0200
      Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again) andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-06-22 15:30 +0200
    Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again) Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-06-22 20:10 +0200

#208073 — Re: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again)

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2019-05-03 15:40 +0200
SubjectRe: linux-kernel needs dist-upgrade (again)
Message-ID<xTGzT-7tc-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 06:10:45AM +0000, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> I would like to understand why apt-get upgrade holds backup the upgrade of the Linux kernel. 

Because the kernel ABI changed, and a new package has to be installed.
It's not just an upgrade of an existing package.

By default, "apt upgrade" will allow new packages to be installed, but
"apt-get upgrade" will not.

You can use "apt-get dist-upgrade".  Or you can use
"apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade".  Or you can (maybe?) tweak some variable
in apt.conf to make --with-new-pkgs the default behavior.

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#208074

Fromjohn doe <johndoe65534@mail.com>
Date2019-05-03 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<xTGJA-7wG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208073
On 5/3/2019 3:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 06:10:45AM +0000, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>> I would like to understand why apt-get upgrade holds backup the upgrade of the Linux kernel.
>
> Because the kernel ABI changed, and a new package has to be installed.
> It's not just an upgrade of an existing package.
>
> By default, "apt upgrade" will allow new packages to be installed, but
> "apt-get upgrade" will not.
>
> You can use "apt-get dist-upgrade".  Or you can use
> "apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade".  Or you can (maybe?) tweak some variable
> in apt.conf to make --with-new-pkgs the default behavior.
>

Or to install the package without using dist-upgrade:

$ apt-get install <PKG>

--
John Doe

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#210245

Fromandreimpopescu@gmail.com
Date2019-06-22 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<ybOfD-2bR-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Vi, 03 mai 19, 15:40:09, john doe wrote:
> On 5/3/2019 3:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 06:10:45AM +0000, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> >> I would like to understand why apt-get upgrade holds backup the upgrade of the Linux kernel.
> >
> > Because the kernel ABI changed, and a new package has to be installed.
> > It's not just an upgrade of an existing package.
> >
> > By default, "apt upgrade" will allow new packages to be installed, but
> > "apt-get upgrade" will not.
> >
> > You can use "apt-get dist-upgrade".  Or you can use
> > "apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade".  Or you can (maybe?) tweak some variable
> > in apt.conf to make --with-new-pkgs the default behavior.
> >
> 
> Or to install the package without using dist-upgrade:
> 
> $ apt-get install <PKG>

Which package?

If the kernel image package (and not the meta-package) this would also 
set it as "manually installed", which may not be what the OP wants.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#210258

FromPascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2019-06-22 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<ybSCB-4T6-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208073
Le 03/05/2019 à 15:32, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
> On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 06:10:45AM +0000, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>> I would like to understand why apt-get upgrade holds backup the upgrade of the Linux kernel.
> 
> Because the kernel ABI changed, and a new package has to be installed.
> It's not just an upgrade of an existing package.
> 
> By default, "apt upgrade" will allow new packages to be installed, but
> "apt-get upgrade" will not.
> 
> You can use "apt-get dist-upgrade".  Or you can use
> "apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade".

Or simply "apt upgrade", which can install new packages (but cannot 
remove installed packages, unlike "apt-get dist-upgrade").

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