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  openjdk-8-jre for buster Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2019-05-31 17:30 +0200
    Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-05-31 17:50 +0200
    Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-05-31 17:50 +0200
      Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-06-01 13:20 +0200
      Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2019-06-01 19:10 +0200
        Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-03 23:40 +0200
          Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-06-04 03:20 +0200
          Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Renato Gallo <renato@aster-lab.com> - 2019-06-06 12:30 +0200
          Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-06-06 12:30 +0200
            Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-06-06 14:10 +0200
              Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-06-07 12:40 +0200
                Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-07 17:20 +0200
                  Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-07 17:30 +0200
                  Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2019-06-11 02:40 +0200
            Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-06 20:40 +0200

#209468 — openjdk-8-jre for buster

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Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster?

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#209469

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:20:58AM -0400, Larry Martell wrote:
>    Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster? 

If you specifically want to install the Debian packages, you will have
to add 'unstable' sources to your sources.list and install from there.
Note that you will want to make careful use of apt pinning [0] to ensure
that you don't bring in a whole bunch of packages from unstable that you
don't really want.

Aside from that, it is probably better (from a long term sustainability
perspective) to consider upgrading your application or process to use
openjdk-11.  Another possible solution is to manually install openjdk-8
from upstream tarballs.

Regards,

-Roberto

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
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#209471

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On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:20:58 -0400
Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Larry,

>Is it possible to get openjdk-8-jre for buster?

Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8

Short version:  It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't be
back.

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#209489

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On Fri, 31 May 2019 15:55:55 +0000
Gian Uberto Lauri <saint@eng.it> wrote:

Hello Gian,

>Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?

I don't run IcedTea myself.  I found no need for it.

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#209499

On 2019-05-31, Gian Uberto Lauri <saint@eng.it> wrote:
>>>>>> "BR" == Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> writes:
>
>BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8
>
>BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
>BR> be back.
>
> Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?
>

Java Web Start has been removed from OpenJDK 11, so I doubt it.

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#209591

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However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 12:08 PM Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2019-05-31, Gian Uberto Lauri <saint@eng.it> wrote:
> >>>>>> "BR" == Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> writes:
> >
> >BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8
> >
> >BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
> >BR> be back.
> >
> > Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?
> >
>
> Java Web Start has been removed from OpenJDK 11, so I doubt it.
>
> --
>
> Liam
>
>

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#209592

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>    However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in [1]tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8
>    that 
>    "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental"
>    and
>    "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all)
>    into proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff)
>    (signed by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>    Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

No.  See, https://bugs.debian.org/929650

Regards,

-Roberto
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#209679

openjdk 11 is not bad

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org>
To: "debian-user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 12:22:41 PM
Subject: Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
>proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
>by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
squeeze, rather than Buster.

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#209680

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
>proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
>by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
squeeze, rather than Buster.

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#209686

On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:22:41AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
> > "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
> > "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
> > proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
> > by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
> > Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?
> 
> That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current* stable, i.e.,
> squeeze, rather than Buster.
> 
Since you say "current" stable, I assume you mean stretch.  The support
for squeeze (even LTS) ended quite some time ago :-)

Regards,

-Roberto

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#209717

On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 08:00:17AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>Since you say "current" stable, I assume you mean stretch.  The support
>for squeeze (even LTS) ended quite some time ago :-)

You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the forthcoming
run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-(

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#209721

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On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

>
> You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the
> forthcoming
> run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-(
>

Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise.
LOTR?
How could you run out of names? Just pick a language.... :-)


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#209722

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 04:23:25PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with
> the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4)
> is out at some point so that may give us a whole new set of names to
> choose from.

Toy Story 4 comes out this month.  Toy Story 3 was from... wikipedia
says 2010, so it's been a while.

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#209811

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On 8/06/19 3:16 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org
> <mailto:jmtd@debian.org>> wrote:
>
>
>     You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the
>     forthcoming
>     run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing
>     for me :-(
>
>
> Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise.
> LOTR?
> How could you run out of names? Just pick a language.... :-)

So we'll need support for runes etc just for the name of the distro? :-)

Richard

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#209697

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Ah sorry, missed the deb9u1. Thanks.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 5:23 AM Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> >However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
> >"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental"
> and
> >"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all)
> into
> >proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff)
> (signed
> >by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
> >Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?
>
> That is preparation for updating the openjdk-8 package in *current*
> stable, i.e.,
> squeeze, rather than Buster.
>
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