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  Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks Web@CorrLinks.com - 2019-02-21 07:50 +0100
    Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-21 08:40 +0100
      Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-21 09:00 +0100
        Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-21 09:40 +0100
          Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-21 09:50 +0100
            What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link  from CorrLinks] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-21 10:00 +0100
              Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-02-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-21 14:50 +0100
                  Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-02-21 15:10 +0100
                    Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-21 15:40 +0100
                      Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-21 16:20 +0100
                      Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-02-21 16:30 +0100
                      Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-02-22 12:00 +0100
                        Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-22 12:10 +0100
                        Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-22 15:10 +0100
                          Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-02-22 15:20 +0100
                            Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-22 15:40 +0100
                              Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-02-25 13:00 +0100
                                Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-26 04:10 +0100
                            Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 20:40 +0100
                            Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-23 02:00 +0100
                              Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-24 02:10 +0100
                                Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-02-24 08:40 +0100
                          Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-22 16:20 +0100
                            Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-22 17:10 +0100
                    Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-02-21 18:40 +0100
                  Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 04:30 +0100
                    Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-22 05:00 +0100
                    Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-22 09:40 +0100
                      Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-22 10:00 +0100
              Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-21 14:40 +0100
                  Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-21 14:50 +0100
                    Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-02-21 15:00 +0100
                  Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-21 21:50 +0100
                Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset  Link from CorrLinks] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-21 17:30 +0100
                  Message exchange systems (was: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-02-21 17:40 +0100
                    Re: Message exchange systems (was: What to do about spam in  debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-21 17:50 +0100
                  Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-02-22 05:10 +0100
          Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-21 17:30 +0100
            Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2019-02-21 18:00 +0100
          Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2019-02-21 17:30 +0100
        Re: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-02-21 14:20 +0100

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#205558 — Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks

To reset your password, please click the link below.  This link will expire in 24 hours.

https://www.corrlinks.com/R.aspx?c=d04a199a-bd92-42c9-8654-5384a255da06

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#205559

On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 Web@corrlinks.com wrote:

> To reset your password, please click the link below.  This link will
> expire in 24 hours.
>
> https://www.corrlinks.com/R.aspx?c=d04a199a-bd92-42c9-8654-5384a255da0
>6

Whats worse is that my isp is rightfully rejecting some of this bs as 
spam, but I get the threatening msgs from the debian server, threatening 
to unsuscribe me for the bounces. debian shoulda rejected it in the 
first place.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205560

	Hi.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:30:48AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 Web@corrlinks.com wrote:
> 
> > To reset your password, please click the link below.  This link will
> > expire in 24 hours.
> >
> > <dumb spammer link was here>
> 
> Whats worse is that my isp is rightfully rejecting some of this bs as 
> spam, but I get the threatening msgs from the debian server, threatening 
> to unsuscribe me for the bounces.

You do not bounce to the list - [1]. Yes, even if it's spam.
They will excommunicate you if you insist on bouncing to the list.

If you want to notify listmaster team about spam, you should bounce to [2].


> debian shoulda rejected it in the first place.

And you can help this by reporting an offending e-mail as spam, see [1].

Reco

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
[2] mailto:listmaster@lists.debian.org

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#205564

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:55:44AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> 	Hi.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:30:48AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 Web@corrlinks.com wrote:
> > 
> > > To reset your password, please click the link below.  This link will
> > > expire in 24 hours.
> > >
> > > <dumb spammer link was here>
> > 
> > Whats worse is that my isp is rightfully rejecting some of this bs as 
> > spam, but I get the threatening msgs from the debian server, threatening 
> > to unsuscribe me for the bounces.
> 
> You do not bounce to the list - [1]. Yes, even if it's spam.
> They will excommunicate you if you insist on bouncing to the list.

+10 (duh, as an "antisocial network" hater, I never thought I'd be
doing this). You shouldn't /bounce/ spam anyway: where are you going
to bounce it to? To a most probably spoofed address, i.e. to a
totally innocent victim? Thus generating reflected spam, aka Joe
Jobs?

If your mail provider is doing this, he is incompetent and you
should bounce HIM. The only fair game these days is to reject the
message while it's being delivered.

> If you want to notify listmaster team about spam, you should bounce to [2].

I'm using [3]. What do folks think is the Right Thing To Do?

> > debian shoulda rejected it in the first place.
> 
> And you can help this by reporting an offending e-mail as spam, see [1].

Exactly. "debian" is "all of us". We ain't Big Blue or Microsoft
or something (that's at least why /I/ am here).

FWIW, the list spam checker wasn't way off the mark:

  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on bendel.debian.org
  X-Spam-Level: **
  X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=4.0 tests=DIGITS_LETTERS,DKIM_SIGNED,
    [...]

Interestingly, the mail itself seems genuine, coming from corrlinks [4],
some kind of state-backed jail inmate exploitation schema. Shudder. Just
their web "masters" seem to have enabled a spam hub in their infinite
wisdom.

Cheers

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
[2] mailto:listmaster@lists.debian.org
[3] mailto:report-listspam@lists.debian.org
-- tomás

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#205565

	Hi.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:38:54AM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > If you want to notify listmaster team about spam, you should bounce to [2].
> 
> I'm using [3]. What do folks think is the Right Thing To Do?

[1] says:

You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to report-listspam@lists.debian.org


It's my understanding that bouncing to [3] should be ok.

> [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
> [2] mailto:listmaster@lists.debian.org
> [3] mailto:report-listspam@lists.debian.org

Reco

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#205566 — What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:

[...]

> You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to report-listspam@lists.debian.org

Thanks
-- t

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#205574 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > report-listspam@lists.debian.org

> This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwards.

Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations.  If you
aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce feature, then
please just ignore this part.

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#205582 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > > report-listspam@lists.debian.org
> >
> > This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwards.
>
> Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations.  If you
> aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce feature,
> then please just ignore this part.

I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that the 
threat of a list unsubscribe is blamed on a "bounce". That specific 
word.

And as far as I know, fetchmail has no ability/facility to bounce a 
message. Fetchmail-6.3.26 IIRC. Locally built from tarball.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205585 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

> > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations.  If you
> > aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce feature,
> > then please just ignore this part.
> 
> I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that the 
> threat of a list unsubscribe is blamed on a "bounce". That specific 
> word.

English sucks.  Words are overloaded and have multiple meanings.

The word "bounce" in particular is being used in two very different ways
in this thread.

(1) When an SMTP receiver accepts a message and then later discovers that
    it cannot deliver said message, it is "supposed" to generate
    a response message to inform the sender that the message was
    undeliverable.  This response is called a "bounce".

    That design is from the early days of the Internet, when spam was
    not (such) an issue.  It worked great in 1990 when the main problems
    were speed, reliability and cost of site-to-site connections.  The
    goal was to ensure that mail got through no matter what.  Receivers
    expected that every incoming message was important and was sent in
    good faith.  The intent was for the receiver to try *really* hard to
    make the delivery or send the message on its way, even if it was
    sent to the wrong place by accident, and even if the original sender
    couldn't stay connected while the receiver tried to figure out how
    to deal with the message.

    Today, that design is EXTREMELY bad, because spammers have taken
    advantage of it.  Spammers forge the sender address, and then send
    their spam to an invalid (or just random) recipient address.  If
    the receiver naively implements the old SMTP protocols including
    separate "bounce" responses, then the spam is sent to the forged
    sender address by the naive victim, and is that much harder to trace
    back to the actual spammer.  This is known as a "joe job", because
    an innocent victim gets blamed for it.

(2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message to
    a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
    verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".

    It's different from "forwarding", which strips out all the headers and
    generates a whole new message with your own regular outgoing headers.

    See the documentation at <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#sending-intro>
    and <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#forwarding-mail>.

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#205586 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations.  If
> > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce
> > > feature, then please just ignore this part.
> >
> > I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that
> > the threat of a list unsubscribe is blamed on a "bounce". That
> > specific word.
>
> English sucks.  Words are overloaded and have multiple meanings.
>
A quite high vacuum at times.

> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
> verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".

If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?
>
>     It's different from "forwarding", which strips out all the headers
> and generates a whole new message with your own regular outgoing
> headers.

Ok, but this doesn't change the messages content, which is what generally 
makes it UCE. So I fail to see the absolute isolation implied. Its still 
valuable for bayes training. Just takes more copies of it to average out 
the noise of where it came FROM.
>
>     See the documentation at
> <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#sending-intro> and
> <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#forwarding-mail>.

I have read the link reco sent, many times at many addresses. Can't argue 
a bit about 99% of it ought to go to /dev/null based of don't give them 
a clue it actually was seen by a human eyeball. It ought to all go 
to /dev/null. When no response is generated, they'll run out of money to 
buy bandwidth, and TANSTAAFL will see to it that space gets rented to 
the next sucker, who bought the last truckload of cabbage patch dolls to 
unload as collectors items. Or maybe it was pet rocks?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205587 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On 2019-02-21, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
>> verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".
>
> If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?
>>

As a matter of fact, Alpine has the same feature and uses the same
designating term ('BOUNCE (redirect) message to :').

I hadn't actually thought before now about the ambiguity of the word and
the possible confusion that might arise given its other, perhaps more
historically valid, meaning.

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#205588 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

Gene Heskett wrote: 
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> > > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations.  If
> > > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce
> > > > feature, then please just ignore this part.
> > >
> > > I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that
> > > the threat of a list unsubscribe is blamed on a "bounce". That
> > > specific word.
> >
> > English sucks.  Words are overloaded and have multiple meanings.
> >
> A quite high vacuum at times.
> 
> > (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
> > to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
> > verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".
> 
> If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?

Because mutt has lots of input from sysadmins, whereas most mail
agents are trying to be easy to use for people who don't read
manuals.

Imagine if the interface for a CNC mill was developed by
Microsoft with the goal that no user could ever cut
themselves on sharp edges. Every edge will be chamfered or
radiused, and you'll never be able to get two pieces to line 
up next to each other seamlessly.

The UNIX philosophy is that at any moment, a user might change into a
sysadmin or a programmer, so make those tools available if they
know how to invoke them.

-dsr-

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#205639 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
>> verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".
>
>If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?

It isn't. But it's not a common feature, in common mailers. It's
analogous to a power tool. All mutt is really doing is feeding the mail
to /usr/bin/sendmail, and specifying the address to which you want it
sent on the sendmail command-line. It relies upon you having a properly
configured /usr/bin/sendmail interface (which is provided by, for
example, Exim — not just Sendmail). The same result can be achieved with
a procmail recipe, or a shell script, if you have access to the raw
mail.


-- 

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#205640 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

	Hi.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:52:37AM +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> The same result can be achieved with a procmail recipe, or a shell
> script, if you have access to the raw mail.

... and if you do not - you're not using a proper e-mail client anyway.

Reco

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#205645 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
>>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
>>> verbatim.  Mutt calls this "bouncing".
>>
>>If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?
>
> It isn't. But it's not a common feature, in common mailers. It's
> analogous to a power tool. All mutt is really doing is feeding the mail
> to /usr/bin/sendmail, and specifying the address to which you want it
> sent on the sendmail command-line. It relies upon you having a properly
> configured /usr/bin/sendmail interface (which is provided by, for
> example, Exim — not just Sendmail). The same result can be achieved with
> a procmail recipe, or a shell script, if you have access to the raw
> mail.


What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?  It
rather seems to be an ubiquitous property, either natively, as a
plugin (Thunderbird), or as configurable possibility (Claws Mail
'Actions', etc).

I'd also point out that, at least in Alpine, the feature does not depend
on or require the use of an external MTA such as sendmail, Exim, etc.

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#205649 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -0000, Curt wrote:
>What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?

I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps it's just not
generally a well-known feature.

>I'd also point out that, at least in Alpine, the feature does not depend
>on or require the use of an external MTA such as sendmail, Exim, etc.

Noted, thanks. I suspect mutt can be configured similarly.

-- 

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
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#205651 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -0000, Curt wrote:
>>What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
>
> I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
> my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps it's just not
> generally a well-known feature.

If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in
it preliminarily.

>>I'd also point out that, at least in Alpine, the feature does not depend
>>on or require the use of an external MTA such as sendmail, Exim, etc.
>
> Noted, thanks. I suspect mutt can be configured similarly.
>

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#205748 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -0000, Curt wrote:
>If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in
>it preliminarily.

I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I
don't think posters can be expected to put in the kind of research work
that might be required on a professional support channel. I posted based
on my experience, generalised, and you disagree with the generalisation:
mea culpa. Most of the time I think I post constructive messages.

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#205756 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:57:32 +0000
Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -0000, Curt wrote:
> >If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in
> >it preliminarily.
> 
> I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I
> don't think posters can be expected to put in the kind of research work
> that might be required on a professional support channel. I posted based
> on my experience, generalised, and you disagree with the generalisation:
> mea culpa. Most of the time I think I post constructive messages.

Of course you do, and I (and probably many others on this list) always
welcome your contributions as being knowledgable and gracious.

Celejar

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#205662 — Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:16:43 +0000
Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -0000, Curt wrote:
> >What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
> 
> I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
> my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps it's just not
> generally a well-known feature.
> 
> >I'd also point out that, at least in Alpine, the feature does not depend
> >on or require the use of an external MTA such as sendmail, Exim, etc.
> 
> Noted, thanks. I suspect mutt can be configured similarly.

Sylpheed has redirection as a built-in feature, and it works via
Sylpheed's built-in SMTP functionality. I.e., mail can be
redirected through any SMTP account that the user has configured.

Celejar

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