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Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

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  Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 07:50 +0100
    Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 10:10 +0100
      Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 10:30 +0100
        Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-15 11:00 +0100
          Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 09:00 +0100
          Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 07:10 +0100
            Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-17 11:40 +0100
              Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 05:20 +0100
                Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-18 10:00 +0100
                  Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> - 2019-02-18 10:30 +0100
          Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 22:00 +0100
        Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> - 2019-02-15 11:00 +0100
          Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> - 2019-02-15 11:10 +0100
            Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> - 2019-02-15 11:30 +0100
              Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 09:00 +0100
            Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 08:50 +0100
          Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 08:50 +0100
      Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50  TB of Data Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 07:20 +0100
    Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2019-02-15 10:40 +0100
      Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 14:50 +0100
    Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-02-15 15:20 +0100
      Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 06:10 +0100
        Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-02-16 12:10 +0100
          GnuBee: freedom-respecting Network Attached Storage (was: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-02-17 02:30 +0100
            Some other Personal Server options -- - Re: GnuBee:  freedom-respecting Network Attached Storage deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-02-17 13:30 +0100
    Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data Edwin Pers <pers.edwin@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 21:30 +0100
    Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB  of Data John Darrah <xyllyx@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 03:20 +0100

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#205356 — Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-15 07:50 +0100
SubjectPlease Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrFtT-aD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi,

Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?

Here are some important factors to consider:

1. Personal/non-commercial use.
2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
it will not suddenly close down the next day.

Please advise.

Thank you.



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#205363 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

From"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-15 10:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrHFo-1EY-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205356

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On 15.02.2019 11:44, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
>
> Here are some important factors to consider:
>
> 1. Personal/non-commercial use.
Out of pure interest, what kind of data do plan to store? How often do
you plan to access it and from what location?
50000 GB of data looks enormous to transfer over the Internet on daily
basis.
> 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
I don't think there are any kind of storage service available for that
kind of storage demand and costs a few tenners.
50 TB is no joke and even basic calculation gives values around $1300
per month.
I don't know the whole picture of your use case, but I think it would be
much cheaper in a long run to self-host it on premises. Even with high
availability solution.
> 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
> it will not suddenly close down the next day.
Basically, you have to stick with one of major companies, like Google,
Amazon, CloudFlare, Microsoft.
Otherwise, there is no guarantee that your data will vanish one day with
the company, but even then, once your data is uploaded into cloud it
could become a hostage at any time in the future.
> Please advise.
>
> Thank you.
>


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#205365 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-15 10:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrHYJ-1Lw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205363
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:03 PM Alexander V. Makartsev
<avbetev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 15.02.2019 11:44, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
>
> Here are some important factors to consider:
>
> 1. Personal/non-commercial use.
>
> Out of pure interest, what kind of data do plan to store? How often do you plan to access it and from what location?
> 50000 GB of data looks enormous to transfer over the Internet on daily basis.

Hi Alexander,

Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?

>
> 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
>
> I don't think there are any kind of storage service available for that kind of storage demand and costs a few tenners.
> 50 TB is no joke and even basic calculation gives values around $1300 per month.

USD$1300 per month is more than half or 50% of the monthly salary of a
typical university graduate in Singapore. So I don't think I will be
able to afford to pay USD$1300 per month just for cloud storage alone.

> I don't know the whole picture of your use case, but I think it would be much cheaper in a long run to self-host it on premises. Even with high availability solution.
>
> 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
> it will not suddenly close down the next day.
>
> Basically, you have to stick with one of major companies, like Google, Amazon, CloudFlare, Microsoft.
> Otherwise, there is no guarantee that your data will vanish one day with the company, but even then, once your data is uploaded into cloud it could become a hostage at any time in the future.

Noted above sentence with thanks.

>
> Please advise.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> --
> With kindest regards, Alexander.
>
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#205368 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-02-15 11:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrIrL-1VG-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205365
On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier


 Glacier has two costs, one for storage and one for retrieval.  Uploading data
 to Glacier is free. Storage pricing is simple: it currently costs 0.4 cents per
 gigabyte per month, which is 82% cheaper than S3 Standard.

 In 2016, AWS revised their retrieval pricing model.[16] The new model bases
 the retrieval fee on the number of gigabytes retrieved. This can amount to a
 99% price cut for users who perform only one glacier retrieval in a month. At
 the same time, AWS introduced new methods of retrieval that take different
 amounts of time. An expedited retrieval costs one cent per request and three
 cents per gigabyte, and can retrieve data in one to five minutes. A standard
 retrieval costs five cents per thousand requests and one cent per gigabyte, and
 takes three to five hours. A bulk retrieval costs 2.5 cents per thousand
 requests and 0.25 cents per gigabyte, and takes seven to twelve hours. AWS also
 introduced provisioned capacity for expedited retrievals, each unit of which
 costs $100 per month and guarantees at least three expedited retrievals every
 five minutes, and up to 150 MB/s of retrieval bandwidth. Without provisioned
 capacity, expedited retrievals are done on a capacity available basis.

Happy storage.

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#205429 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-16 09:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xs33b-67G-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205368
Noted with thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:53 PM Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
>
> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
> >
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier
>
>
>  Glacier has two costs, one for storage and one for retrieval.  Uploading data
>  to Glacier is free. Storage pricing is simple: it currently costs 0.4 cents per
>  gigabyte per month, which is 82% cheaper than S3 Standard.
>
>  In 2016, AWS revised their retrieval pricing model.[16] The new model bases
>  the retrieval fee on the number of gigabytes retrieved. This can amount to a
>  99% price cut for users who perform only one glacier retrieval in a month. At
>  the same time, AWS introduced new methods of retrieval that take different
>  amounts of time. An expedited retrieval costs one cent per request and three
>  cents per gigabyte, and can retrieve data in one to five minutes. A standard
>  retrieval costs five cents per thousand requests and one cent per gigabyte, and
>  takes three to five hours. A bulk retrieval costs 2.5 cents per thousand
>  requests and 0.25 cents per gigabyte, and takes seven to twelve hours. AWS also
>  introduced provisioned capacity for expedited retrievals, each unit of which
>  costs $100 per month and guarantees at least three expedited retrievals every
>  five minutes, and up to 150 MB/s of retrieval bandwidth. Without provisioned
>  capacity, expedited retrievals are done on a capacity available basis.
>
> Happy storage.
>

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#205454 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-17 07:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xsnOh-27O-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205368
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:52:55 -0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
> >
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier

Depending on how often / how fast the storage will need to be accessed,
C14 can be cheaper:

https://www.online.net/en/c14#pricing

Celejar

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#205462 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-02-17 11:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xss1z-4wi-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205454
On 2019-02-17, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:52:55 -0000 (UTC)
> Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
>> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
>> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier
>
> Depending on how often / how fast the storage will need to be accessed,
> C14 can be cheaper:
>
> https://www.online.net/en/c14#pricing

Amazon also fills the enterprise-unlikely-to-fold-in-the-foreseeable-
future" reliability criterion. I'm uncertain about c14 in this regard
(though a "deep underground fallout shelter located in Paris, France.
Without known natural, technological, and military risks..." sounds
quite reassuring, especially if you're a French civil servant).

One worrisome aspect is the "Sustainability Guarantee" (whatever that
might be) for a "Standard" service level is merely 3-6 years, which is
quite this side of forever. 

It also appears that once your data is uploaded to a "safe-deposit box"
(limited to 40TB in size) via the rsync, ftp, sftp, or scp protocols, it
is permanently archived. But you only have 7 days to effectuate that
upload. How many TBs of data the OP could transfer over his link in a
week remains to be evaluated, but it seems unarchiving an existing
archive to add more data, or creating a new one, are both operations
subject to a fee.

BTW, what about these Canadians (histoire de couper la poire en deux, so
to speak)?

https://www.sync.com/pricing/

Business Advanced

 For multiple users
 $15per user, per month
 billed annually
 2-user minimum

 All the secure file storage you need (up to 10 TB per user), with
 advanced sharing, collaboration, admin controls and live support.

That comes out to $75.00 a month for 50TB (five users).
Sounds pretty good from here.

> Celejar
>
>

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#205490 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-18 05:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xsIzo-493-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205462
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:37:54 -0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2019-02-17, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:52:55 -0000 (UTC)
> > Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> >> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> >> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
> >> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier
> >
> > Depending on how often / how fast the storage will need to be accessed,
> > C14 can be cheaper:
> >
> > https://www.online.net/en/c14#pricing
> 
> Amazon also fills the enterprise-unlikely-to-fold-in-the-foreseeable-
> future" reliability criterion. I'm uncertain about c14 in this regard
> (though a "deep underground fallout shelter located in Paris, France.
> Without known natural, technological, and military risks..." sounds
> quite reassuring, especially if you're a French civil servant).
> 
> One worrisome aspect is the "Sustainability Guarantee" (whatever that
> might be) for a "Standard" service level is merely 3-6 years, which is
> quite this side of forever. 

Fair points, certainly, but note that Online.net is a major internet
company, albeit not an Amazon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_SAS

> It also appears that once your data is uploaded to a "safe-deposit box"
> (limited to 40TB in size) via the rsync, ftp, sftp, or scp protocols, it
> is permanently archived. But you only have 7 days to effectuate that
> upload. How many TBs of data the OP could transfer over his link in a
> week remains to be evaluated, but it seems unarchiving an existing
> archive to add more data, or creating a new one, are both operations
> subject to a fee.

Agreed.

> BTW, what about these Canadians (histoire de couper la poire en deux, so
> to speak)?
> 
> https://www.sync.com/pricing/
> 
> Business Advanced
> 
>  For multiple users
>  $15per user, per month
>  billed annually
>  2-user minimum
> 
>  All the secure file storage you need (up to 10 TB per user), with
>  advanced sharing, collaboration, admin controls and live support.
> 
> That comes out to $75.00 a month for 50TB (five users).
> Sounds pretty good from here.

Looks interesting - do they support standard protocols, or is their
proprietary client required?

Celejar

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#205493 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-02-18 10:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xsMWl-6xT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205490
On 2019-02-18, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed.
>
>> BTW, what about these Canadians (histoire de couper la poire en deux, so
>> to speak)?
>> 
>> https://www.sync.com/pricing/
>> 
>> Business Advanced
>> 
>>  For multiple users
>>  $15per user, per month
>>  billed annually
>>  2-user minimum
>> 
>>  All the secure file storage you need (up to 10 TB per user), with
>>  advanced sharing, collaboration, admin controls and live support.
>> 
>> That comes out to $75.00 a month for 50TB (five users).
>> Sounds pretty good from here.
>
> Looks interesting - do they support standard protocols, or is their
> proprietary client required?

No support for standard protocols that I can see and you need to install
their proprietary app (for which there is none for Linux, though they
say they're working on one).

So those constitute rather important cons that probably cancel out the
pros, at least until a linux client appears. I believe SpiderOak One has
a Debian client, BTW (storage of 50TB would be about $250.00 a month
with them if I'm calculating correctly).

> Celejar
>
>


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#205494 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromAdam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com>
Date2019-02-18 10:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xsNpo-6WA-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205493
Has anybody tried: https://rclone.org ?

I still think something like this combined with 5  x G Suite Business 
accounts would be the best value for money.

I.e. $50 pm for unlimited storage.


On 18/02/19 08:57, Curt wrote:
> No support for standard protocols that I can see and you need to install
> their proprietary app (for which there is none for Linux, though they
> say they're working on one).
>
> So those constitute rather important cons that probably cancel out the
> pros, at least until a linux client appears. I believe SpiderOak One has
> a Debian client, BTW (storage of 50TB would be about $250.00 a month
> with them if I'm calculating correctly).

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#205529 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromNicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-19 22:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xtkEG-Ur-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205368

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I can't say it any better than the previous poster. Simply add that
retrieval from Glacier is straightforward but annoying. You also need to be
ok with day-plus turnaround for very large retrievals.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 3:53 AM Curt <curty@free.fr wrote:

> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
> >
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier
>
>
>  Glacier has two costs, one for storage and one for retrieval.  Uploading
> data
>  to Glacier is free. Storage pricing is simple: it currently costs 0.4
> cents per
>  gigabyte per month, which is 82% cheaper than S3 Standard.
>
>  In 2016, AWS revised their retrieval pricing model.[16] The new model
> bases
>  the retrieval fee on the number of gigabytes retrieved. This can amount
> to a
>  99% price cut for users who perform only one glacier retrieval in a
> month. At
>  the same time, AWS introduced new methods of retrieval that take different
>  amounts of time. An expedited retrieval costs one cent per request and
> three
>  cents per gigabyte, and can retrieve data in one to five minutes. A
> standard
>  retrieval costs five cents per thousand requests and one cent per
> gigabyte, and
>  takes three to five hours. A bulk retrieval costs 2.5 cents per thousand
>  requests and 0.25 cents per gigabyte, and takes seven to twelve hours.
> AWS also
>  introduced provisioned capacity for expedited retrievals, each unit of
> which
>  costs $100 per month and guarantees at least three expedited retrievals
> every
>  five minutes, and up to 150 MB/s of retrieval bandwidth. Without
> provisioned
>  capacity, expedited retrievals are done on a capacity available basis.
>
> Happy storage.
>
>

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#205369 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromAdam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com>
Date2019-02-15 11:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrIrL-1VG-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205365
Hi,

It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:

https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html

5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts with 
unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.

AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days to 
complete the initial push.

Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential data 
updates.

Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?

Thanks,
Adam

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#205370 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromAdam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com>
Date2019-02-15 11:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrIBr-2ef-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205369
Actually even a cheaper "Business" plan offers unlimited storage for 5 
or more users.

So you might spend as little as $50 per month:

https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_us/pricing.html

My links are for UK and US.

Edit the URL to browse different regions.


On 15/02/19 09:34, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:
>
> https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html
>
> 5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts 
> with unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.
>
> AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days 
> to complete the initial push.
>
> Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential 
> data updates.
>
> Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam

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#205372 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromAdam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com>
Date2019-02-15 11:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrIUO-2kB-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205370
The upload volume is currently capped at 750GB per day:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/172541?hl=en

So it would take you about 67 days to push to a single account and about 
14 days if you split the data into 5 even chunks and push simultaneously 
to 5 accounts.

You would need a very fast internet connection to go much faster with 
any provider anyway.


On 15/02/19 09:48, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> Actually even a cheaper "Business" plan offers unlimited storage for 5 
> or more users.
>
> So you might spend as little as $50 per month:
>
> https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_us/pricing.html
>
> My links are for UK and US.
>
> Edit the URL to browse different regions.
>
>
> On 15/02/19 09:34, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:
>>
>> https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html
>>
>> 5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts 
>> with unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.
>>
>> AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days 
>> to complete the initial push.
>>
>> Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential 
>> data updates.
>>
>> Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>

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#205431 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-16 09:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xs33b-67G-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205372
Noted with thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 6:04 PM Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> wrote:
>
> The upload volume is currently capped at 750GB per day:
>
> https://support.google.com/a/answer/172541?hl=en
>
> So it would take you about 67 days to push to a single account and about
> 14 days if you split the data into 5 even chunks and push simultaneously
> to 5 accounts.
>
> You would need a very fast internet connection to go much faster with
> any provider anyway.
>
>
> On 15/02/19 09:48, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> > Actually even a cheaper "Business" plan offers unlimited storage for 5
> > or more users.
> >
> > So you might spend as little as $50 per month:
> >
> > https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_us/pricing.html
> >
> > My links are for UK and US.
> >
> > Edit the URL to browse different regions.
> >
> >
> > On 15/02/19 09:34, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:
> >>
> >> https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html
> >>
> >> 5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts
> >> with unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.
> >>
> >> AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days
> >> to complete the initial push.
> >>
> >> Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential
> >> data updates.
> >>
> >> Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Adam
> >
>

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#205428 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-16 08:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xs2Tv-64h-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205370
Noted with thanks.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:48 PM Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> wrote:
>
> Actually even a cheaper "Business" plan offers unlimited storage for 5
> or more users.
>
> So you might spend as little as $50 per month:
>
> https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_us/pricing.html
>
> My links are for UK and US.
>
> Edit the URL to browse different regions.
>
>
> On 15/02/19 09:34, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:
> >
> > https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html
> >
> > 5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts
> > with unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.
> >
> > AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days
> > to complete the initial push.
> >
> > Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential
> > data updates.
> >
> > Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Adam
>

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#205427 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-16 08:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xs2Tv-64h-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205369
Noted with thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:34 PM Adam Weremczuk <adamw@matrixscience.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It could make sense to sign up for Google Enterprise subscription:
>
> https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/pricing.html
>
> 5 users will cost you 5 x £20 = £100 per month and give 5 accounts with
> unlimited storage in a trusted and reliable place.
>
> AFAIK there is upload speed cap in place so it may take you many days to
> complete the initial push.
>
> Moving forward I would recommend rsync or similar for differential data
> updates.
>
> Not sure why you've posted your question to this list though?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam

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#205455 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-17 07:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xsnXX-2bp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205363
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:03:14 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15.02.2019 11:44, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> > Here are some important factors to consider:

...

> > 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> > super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> > from the National University of Singapore in 2007.

> I don't think there are any kind of storage service available for that
> kind of storage demand and costs a few tenners.
> 50 TB is no joke and even basic calculation gives values around $1300
> per month.

Much cheaper services are available, e.g., Wasabi, for $250:

https://wasabi.com/pricing/

Celejar

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#205366 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromGeorgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz>
Date2019-02-15 10:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrI8p-1OG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205356
On 2/15/19 8:44 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> 
> Here are some important factors to consider:
> 
> 1. Personal/non-commercial use.
> 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
> 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
> it will not suddenly close down the next day.
> 

Hi Turritopsis,


https://www.hetzner.com has offers for storage up to 10TB for € 39.90
per month without VAT. Maybe it'll worth to ask them if they can provide
50TB for your needs.

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box

Kind regards
Georgi

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#205377 — Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

FromTurritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <tdteoenming@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-15 14:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Message-ID<xrM2l-48V-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#205366
Hi Georgi,

Thank you for sharing.

I will bookmark the link.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:33 PM Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> wrote:
>
> On 2/15/19 8:44 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> > Here are some important factors to consider:
> >
> > 1. Personal/non-commercial use.
> > 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> > super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> > from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
> > 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
> > it will not suddenly close down the next day.
> >
>
> Hi Turritopsis,
>
>
> https://www.hetzner.com has offers for storage up to 10TB for € 39.90
> per month without VAT. Maybe it'll worth to ask them if they can provide
> 50TB for your needs.
>
> https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box
>
> Kind regards
> Georgi
>

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