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  Stretch to buster Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-02-08 16:10 +0100
    Re: Stretch to buster Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> - 2019-02-08 16:40 +0100
    Apparmor and skype. G <gpdsbe@mailbox.org> - 2019-02-08 16:50 +0100
      Re: Apparmor and firefox! G <gpdsbe@mailbox.org> - 2019-02-08 16:50 +0100
    Re: Stretch to buster Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2019-02-08 17:40 +0100
    Re: Stretch to buster Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 20:10 +0100
      Re: Stretch to buster Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2019-02-09 03:40 +0100
        Re: Stretch to buster Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-02-09 08:50 +0100
          Re: Stretch to buster Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 22:40 +0100
            Re: Stretch to buster Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 23:10 +0100
            Re: Stretch to buster deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 00:10 +0100
              Re: Stretch to buster Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2019-02-10 00:50 +0100
                Re: Stretch to buster Keith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 09:40 +0100
              Re: Stretch to buster Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2019-02-10 01:30 +0100
              Re: Stretch to buster Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 07:50 +0100

#205132 — Stretch to buster

Hi

Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
just undertaken

apt update && apt upgrade

today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
for the most part.

Paul


-- 
Paul Sutton
http://www.zleap.net
https://www.linkedin.com/in/zleap/
gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893  1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D

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#205134

On 2/8/19 8:06 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
> just undertaken
> 
> apt update && apt upgrade
> 
> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
> for the most part.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

That's good to hear! Keep in mind that Buster is still Testing though,
and not officially released, so you will still experience non-stable
packages and libraries.

I too am running Buster right now with minimal issues.

Cheers,

-Matt

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#205135 — Apparmor and skype.

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Hi!
Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.

Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
Config files and Download, Desktop directory.

This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
allows me to save everywhere i want.

I attach my apparmor profile


Thanks in Advance!!

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#205136 — Re: Apparmor and firefox!

I corrected the subject title!

On 2/8/19 5:47 PM, G wrote:
> Hi!
> Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.
> 
> Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
> Config files and Download, Desktop directory.
> 
> This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
> allows me to save everywhere i want.
> 
> I attach my apparmor profile
> 
> 
> Thanks in Advance!!
> 

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#205137

I did the same on a test install, a couple times. (mate desktop)
The first try failed, I forgot to also edit the 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list
the second worked quite well.

I am a bit nervous about updating my daily drivers.

On 2/8/19 7:06 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
>
> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
> just undertaken
>
> apt update && apt upgrade
>
> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
> for the most part.
>
> Paul
>
>

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#205140

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +0000
Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:

> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
> just undertaken

Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
your primary use distro.

> apt update && apt upgrade

With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
manual for why. 

> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
> for the most part.

Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
or better.

B

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#205142

On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +0000
> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
>
>> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
>> just undertaken
> Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
> your primary use distro.
Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been 
several "new shiny things" I like.

alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a 
year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway. 
The last couple months zip.

I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always 
accessible.
>
>> apt update && apt upgrade
> With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
> would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
> manual for why.

my procedure was dead simple:

using Pluma:
edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list
 > replace stretch with buster

using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.

reboot and all was good

>> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
>> for the most part.
> Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
> or better.
true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the Buster 
repo
excellent vetting process
>
> B
>
>
>

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#205143

On 09/02/2019 02:22, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +0000
>> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
>>> just undertaken
>> Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
>> your primary use distro.
> Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
> 2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been
> several "new shiny things" I like.
>
> alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a
> year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway.
> The last couple months zip.
>
> I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always
> accessible.
>>
>>> apt update && apt upgrade
>> With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
>> would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
>> manual for why.
>
> my procedure was dead simple:
>
> using Pluma:
> edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list
> > replace stretch with buster
>
> using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.
>
> reboot and all was good
>
>>> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty
>>> painless
>>> for the most part.
>> Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
>> or better.
> true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the
> Buster repo
> excellent vetting process
>
> I have a spare netbook, which was running stretch, not really being used
> for much as I have my main desktop / netbook for general use / work.  
> However why not upgrade and test.  I am sure given the comments to this
> thread with regard to no problems etc is of great comfort to the
> developers. 
>
> I can't do much,  as I am probably not technical enough.  I can run the
> update commands,  and see what happens,  I have an idea on how to pipe
> these messages to a file.  This can be shared and hopefully be useful.
>
> If I share issues here others may be able to say if they have the same
> issue.  For the most part we can discuss the experiences here and
> confirm issues.
>
> The about myself tool still comes up with 'unknown error' when trying to
> apply changes.
>
> xfce menu -> debian - applications -> system - administration - about myself
>
> enter info - apply - password - unknown error
>
>
> Paul

-- 
Paul Sutton
http://www.zleap.net
https://www.linkedin.com/in/zleap/
gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893  1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D

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#205149

On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 07:48:00 +0000
Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:

> On 09/02/2019 02:22, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >
> > On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:  
> >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +0000
> >> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
> >>> just undertaken  
> >> Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
> >> your primary use distro.  
> > Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
> > 2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been
> > several "new shiny things" I like.
> >
> > alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a
> > year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway.
> > The last couple months zip.
> >
> > I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always
> > accessible.  
> >>  
> >>> apt update && apt upgrade  
> >> With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
> >> would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
> >> manual for why.  
> >
> > my procedure was dead simple:
> >
> > using Pluma:
> > edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list  
> > > replace stretch with buster  
> >
> > using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.
> >
> > reboot and all was good
> >  
> >>> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty
> >>> painless
> >>> for the most part.  
> >> Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
> >> or better.  
> > true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the
> > Buster repo
> > excellent vetting process
> >
> > I have a spare netbook, which was running stretch, not really being used
> > for much as I have my main desktop / netbook for general use / work.  
> > However why not upgrade and test.  I am sure given the comments to this
> > thread with regard to no problems etc is of great comfort to the
> > developers. 
> >
> > I can't do much,  as I am probably not technical enough.  I can run the
> > update commands,  and see what happens,  I have an idea on how to pipe
> > these messages to a file.  This can be shared and hopefully be useful.
> >
> > If I share issues here others may be able to say if they have the same
> > issue.  For the most part we can discuss the experiences here and
> > confirm issues.
> >
> > The about myself tool still comes up with 'unknown error' when trying to
> > apply changes.
> >
> > xfce menu -> debian - applications -> system - administration - about myself
> >
> > enter info - apply - password - unknown error
> >
> >
> > Paul  

Thanks to both Paul & Peter for their dist-upgrade reasons -- some
practical, others "bright shiny new toy."

As for me, I'm the patient, very practical type.  Debian is my distro
of choice after almost 20 years of using other Linuxes because of its
philosophy of stability and bug-freeness above all else. I'll wait
until Buster is in Release Candidate status before testing it in a VM.
Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
considering purchasing around summertime uses.

Thanks, again.  You never can have too much info. ;-)

B

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#205150

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OP, are you on x86?  amd64?

Cheers!
--
Boyan Penkov
www.boyanpenkov.com

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 16:29, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 07:48:00 +0000
> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/02/2019 02:22, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:  
>>>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +0000
>>>> Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
>>>>> just undertaken  
>>>> Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
>>>> your primary use distro.  
>>> Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
>>> 2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been
>>> several "new shiny things" I like.
>>> 
>>> alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a
>>> year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway.
>>> The last couple months zip.
>>> 
>>> I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always
>>> accessible.  
>>>> 
>>>>> apt update && apt upgrade  
>>>> With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
>>>> would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
>>>> manual for why.  
>>> 
>>> my procedure was dead simple:
>>> 
>>> using Pluma:
>>> edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list  
>>>> replace stretch with buster  
>>> 
>>> using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.
>>> 
>>> reboot and all was good
>>> 
>>>>> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty
>>>>> painless
>>>>> for the most part.  
>>>> Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
>>>> or better.  
>>> true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the
>>> Buster repo
>>> excellent vetting process
>>> 
>>> I have a spare netbook, which was running stretch, not really being used
>>> for much as I have my main desktop / netbook for general use / work.  
>>> However why not upgrade and test.  I am sure given the comments to this
>>> thread with regard to no problems etc is of great comfort to the
>>> developers. 
>>> 
>>> I can't do much,  as I am probably not technical enough.  I can run the
>>> update commands,  and see what happens,  I have an idea on how to pipe
>>> these messages to a file.  This can be shared and hopefully be useful.
>>> 
>>> If I share issues here others may be able to say if they have the same
>>> issue.  For the most part we can discuss the experiences here and
>>> confirm issues.
>>> 
>>> The about myself tool still comes up with 'unknown error' when trying to
>>> apply changes.
>>> 
>>> xfce menu -> debian - applications -> system - administration - about myself
>>> 
>>> enter info - apply - password - unknown error
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul  
> 
> Thanks to both Paul & Peter for their dist-upgrade reasons -- some
> practical, others "bright shiny new toy."
> 
> As for me, I'm the patient, very practical type.  Debian is my distro
> of choice after almost 20 years of using other Linuxes because of its
> philosophy of stability and bug-freeness above all else. I'll wait
> until Buster is in Release Candidate status before testing it in a VM.
> Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
> release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
> includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
> considering purchasing around summertime uses.
> 
> Thanks, again.  You never can have too much info. ;-)
> 
> B
> 

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#205152

Patrick Bartek wrote:

> As for me, I'm the patient, very practical type.  Debian is my distro
> of choice after almost 20 years of using other Linuxes because of its
> philosophy of stability and bug-freeness above all else. I'll wait
> until Buster is in Release Candidate status before testing it in a VM.

+1

> Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
> release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
> includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
> considering purchasing around summertime uses.

By the summer could be that Buster is frozen?

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#205153

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On 10/02/19 12:01 PM, deloptes wrote:
>> Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
>> release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
>> includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
>> considering purchasing around summertime uses.
> By the summer could be that Buster is frozen?
> 

Bah. Arrogance of northerners :-)

Summer is in full swing :-)

Richard

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#205223

Keith Bainbridge

keithrbau@gmail.com

+61 (0)447 667 468
On 10/2/19 10:43 am, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 10/02/19 12:01 PM, deloptes wrote:
>>> Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
>>> release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
>>> includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
>>> considering purchasing around summertime uses.
>> By the summer could be that Buster is frozen?
>>
> 
> Bah. Arrogance of northerners :-)
> 
> Summer is in full swing :-)
> 
> Richard
> 
> 

+1


Keith Bainbridge

keithrbau@gmail.com

+61 (0)447 667 468

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#205155

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The freeze for buster will happen according to the following timeline:

  * 2019-01-12 - Transition freeze
  * 2019-02-12 - Soft-freeze
  * 2019-03-12 - Full-freeze
    via https://release.debian.org/buster/freeze_policy.html

On 2/9/19 3:01 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>> As for me, I'm the patient, very practical type.  Debian is my distro
>> of choice after almost 20 years of using other Linuxes because of its
>> philosophy of stability and bug-freeness above all else. I'll wait
>> until Buster is in Release Candidate status before testing it in a VM.
> +1
>
>> Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
>> release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
>> includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
>> considering purchasing around summertime uses.
> By the summer could be that Buster is frozen?
>
>
>

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#205156

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:01:47 +0100
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > As for me, I'm the patient, very practical type.  Debian is my distro
> > of choice after almost 20 years of using other Linuxes because of its
> > philosophy of stability and bug-freeness above all else. I'll wait
> > until Buster is in Release Candidate status before testing it in a VM.  
> 
> +1
> 
> > Normally, I wouldn't bother since I usually only upgrade every other
> > release after LTS ceases on my primary install.  But this time, Buster
> > includes support for AMD's Ryzen APU series which a notebook I'm
> > considering purchasing around summertime uses.  
> 
> By the summer could be that Buster is frozen?

If history is any guide, Buster as stable should be released around May.

B

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