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What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

Started by	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post	2019-02-05 01:20 +0100
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#205053 — Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2019-02-06 09:20 +0100
Subject	Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?
Message-ID	<xoqB4-1M6-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205038

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On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 09:42:04PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > I'd guess the same. But... now it gets interesting: blocked by whom?
> > China? North Korea?
> 
> Yes just tried
> 
>  whois wvsto.com
> 
> and accessible from here Europe.
> I don't think one would block this site

Name resolution isn't a problem: it's the access to the host after
that. Tcpdump shows the SYNs going out but no ACKs arriving, it looks
like some silly firewall rule on the way.

I tried a couple of times after that (once just after I saw Brad's
positive response from the UK) -- the results are consistent for
me.

So our rough map is: France (near Paris), Germany (Berlin): out;
Spain (Madrid): in, UK: in.

So much for basing your "security" on the IPs you see :-D

Attempt at an explanation: as IPV4 gets more and more exhausted,
we're bound to see small slivers of IPV4 space "recycled" and
allocated to random places -- IP address to geolocation "mapping"
becoming more and more fractal and (time-) dynamic. Admins:
enjoy maintaining your firewall rules!

Cheers
-- tomás

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#205057

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date	2019-02-06 11:40 +0100
Message-ID	<xosMx-317-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205053

On Wednesday 06 February 2019 03:10:18 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 09:42:04PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > I'd guess the same. But... now it gets interesting: blocked by
> > > whom? China? North Korea?
> >
> > Yes just tried
> >
> >  whois wvsto.com
> >
> > and accessible from here Europe.
> > I don't think one would block this site
>
> Name resolution isn't a problem: it's the access to the host after
> that. Tcpdump shows the SYNs going out but no ACKs arriving, it looks
> like some silly firewall rule on the way.
>
> I tried a couple of times after that (once just after I saw Brad's
> positive response from the UK) -- the results are consistent for
> me.
>
> So our rough map is: France (near Paris), Germany (Berlin): out;
> Spain (Madrid): in, UK: in.
>
> So much for basing your "security" on the IPs you see :-D
>
> Attempt at an explanation: as IPV4 gets more and more exhausted,
> we're bound to see small slivers of IPV4 space "recycled" and
> allocated to random places -- IP address to geolocation "mapping"
> becoming more and more fractal and (time-) dynamic. Admins:
> enjoy maintaining your firewall rules!
>
> Cheers
> -- tomás

Yup, I'm firmly in ipv4 country yet, and I don't know of an ipv6 facility 
closer than Pittsburgh. I've used it experimentally here in my own 
little domain, but currently have it turned off (I think)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205058

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2019-02-06 14:10 +0100
Message-ID	<xov7I-4A9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205057

Gene writes:
> I'm firmly in ipv4 country yet, and I don't know of an ipv6 facility
> closer than Pittsburgh.

Irrelvant.  Use a tunnel.  I've used these free tunnel brokers:
https://ipv6.he.net/
https://www.sixxs.net/main/

A complete list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#205063

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date	2019-02-06 17:30 +0100
Message-ID	<xoyff-6uj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205058

On Wednesday 06 February 2019 08:04:59 John Hasler wrote:

> Gene writes:
> > I'm firmly in ipv4 country yet, and I don't know of an ipv6 facility
> > closer than Pittsburgh.
>
> Irrelvant.  Use a tunnel.  I've used these free tunnel brokers:
> https://ipv6.he.net/

nearest portal is 500 miles away over ipv4 circuits

> https://www.sixxs.net/main/

was sunsetted 3 years ago.

I just called my cable connection provider, and asked how far away 
timewise, is ipv6 connectivity in Weston WV.
" I don't know what this ipv6 is "

So me, and my ancient web page, are stuck in 10 megabit territory, can 
get 100 if I needed it for another 30 bucks a month, at an ipv4 address 
I just renewed in the December past for another 5 years at namecheap.  
Address in the sig.  And while its said to be dynamic, as long as I 
clone this buffalo routers MAC into whatever router I have  hooked up, 
its been a fixed address for the past 7 years.

One must be practical.  And my point is that the most important mile in 
any net connection, is the last mile to ones modem, and what bandwidth 
the modem is provisioned for. And I consistently measure about 11 or 12 
megabyte down and around 3 up. Meaning I am getting a wee bit more than 
I'm paying for. My telephone is also part of that bundle.  I long ago 
found Verizon's copper here in town, buried for 80+ years, had  very 
poor reliability, and to get Verizon to fix it for another week was 
taking complaints to the states PUC, and which was pissing Verizon off 
no end. So when the local cable was sold to Shentel and a whole new 
technical facility was constructed to support it, I voted with my wallet 
and had it all moved. Now the only service outages have been because the 
power is off long enough for their batteries to run down. I have my own 
power and the modem and my phone is back up 15 seconds after my power 
starts.  Cell phone service dies after their generators run out of fuel.

Takes half a day before their batteries go flat if the outage is wide 
spread.

Verizon sold the local phone system to Frontier, which try harder but its 
still the same old copper with all its problems.

So ipv6 is locally moot, John, and likely will not change within my 
remaining time on this ball of rock and water, which I just extended by 
getting a pacemaker with a ten year battery installed last month. Since 
I am 84 now, I expect something else will put a ~30~ on my story.

If and when it arrives locally, I expect the drones answering the phones 
at my provider will be made cognizant because its their job to sell me a 
better service.

>
> A complete list:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205067

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2019-02-06 21:20 +0100
Message-ID	<xoBPP-nE-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205063

Gene writes:
> nearest portal is 500 miles away over ipv4 circuits

That's what the tunnel is for.

But it sounds like you think ipV6 might get you more bandwidth.  It won't.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#205065

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date	2019-02-06 19:00 +0100
Message-ID	<xozEl-7gG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205053

tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Attempt at an explanation: as IPV4 gets more and more exhausted,
> we're bound to see small slivers of IPV4 space "recycled" and
> allocated to random places -- IP address to geolocation "mapping"
> becoming more and more fractal and (time-) dynamic. Admins:
> enjoy maintaining your firewall rules!

My feeling is that might be all of that is managed from India or Malaysia
and perhaps no one knows what is going on.

I expect worse things in the future.

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#205048

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date	2019-02-06 03:10 +0100
Message-ID	<xokOZ-6xF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#205019

On Tuesday 05 February 2019 09:41:30 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 09:32:01AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 February 2019 08:42:01 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 07:58:11AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > http://www.wvsto.com/Unclaimed-Property/Search-Claim
> > >
> > > It doesn't even connect for me. I lean even more strongly
> > > towards incompetent web "programmers". Sigh.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > -- t
> >
> > You're trying to access it from a .de domain? Probably blocked,
> > although I was alerted by a NY resident who wasn't blocked.
>
> I'd guess the same. But... now it gets interesting: blocked by whom?
> China? North Korea?
>
> Hmmm.

Since that office is John Perdues domain, it may be one of his firewall 
rules.  But thats just a SWAG, Tomas. But it makes more sense than any 
of the other WAG's I can dream up.

> Cheers
> -- t
Take care, Tomas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#205011 — Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

From	Curt <curty@free.fr>
Date	2019-02-05 14:30 +0100
Subject	Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?
Message-ID	<xo8Xw-7q5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#204995

On 2019-02-05, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> The address wasn’t understood
>
> Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because one of the 
> following protocols (javascript) isn’t associated with any program or is 
> not allowed in this context.
>
>     You might need to install other software to open this address.
>
> I am on the states unclaimed property site, entering a name. clicking on 
> the Search button gets the above quoted response.
>
> Thanks everybody.  
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


 about:config

 network.protocol-handler.external.javascript ---> set to false (default)
 javascript.enabled ---> set to true (default)

If you haven't fiddled with those values, of course (user set), there
should be nothing to do and it's back to the drawing board, I guess.

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