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why wodim is in section other os

Started byLong Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
First post2019-01-17 08:40 +0100
Last post2019-01-18 03:50 +0100
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  why wodim is in section other os Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-17 08:40 +0100
    Re: why wodim is in section other os Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-17 09:10 +0100
    Re: why wodim is in section other os Dominique Dumont <domi.dumont@free.fr> - 2019-01-17 09:20 +0100
    Re: why wodim is in section other os "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-01-17 09:30 +0100
    Re: why wodim is in section other os Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-01-17 10:10 +0100
      (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-17 10:30 +0100
        Re: why wodim is in section other os "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-01-17 11:30 +0100
        Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 15:30 +0100
          Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-01-17 18:30 +0100
            Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 23:10 +0100
          Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-18 01:30 +0100
            Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 03:50 +0100

#204481 — why wodim is in section other os

FromLong Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date2019-01-17 08:40 +0100
Subjectwhy wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xharn-Fo-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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it can write CDit more fit in section Utilities
i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained
BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?i use twm, i have no kde or gnome ...Thanks!


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#204482

FromLong Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date2019-01-17 09:10 +0100
Message-ID<xhaUq-14L-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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 Thank Ben!
i've just written my first dvd with growisofs

    On Thursday, January 17, 2019 3:37 PM, Ben Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com> wrote:
 

 On 2019-01-17 07:29:34, Long Wind wrote:
>it can write CDit more fit in section Utilities
>i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained
>BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?i use twm, i have no kde or gnome ...Thanks!
>
>

I use growisofs to burn ISOs to DVD.


   

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#204483

FromDominique Dumont <domi.dumont@free.fr>
Date2019-01-17 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<xhb45-186-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204481
On Thursday, 17 January 2019 08:29:34 CET Long Wind wrote:
> it can write CDit more fit in section Utilities
> i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained
> BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?i use twm, i have no kde or
> gnome ...Thanks!

I use xorriso to write Dvd or BR.

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#204484

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2019-01-17 09:30 +0100
Message-ID<xhbdM-1bC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204481
Hi,

Long Wind wrote:
> it can write CD
> it more fit in section Utilities

Well, growisofs is in section "video".
cdrskin and xorriso are in in "otherosfs" (probably because wodim is).
xfburn is in "xfce", Brasero in "gnome", K3B in "kde".

So section is hardly about what the program does.


> i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained

Officially deprecated for anything but CD media.


> BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?

See the names above. The options interface of cdrskin is meant to be
compatible with wodim's. It supports DVD, Blu-ray, and the main CD burn
use cases of pure data and pure audio.

I am developer of libburn, cdrskin and xorriso.
Further i can give some support for growisofs. The desktop-affiliated GUI
programs use growisofs or libburn as backend. Large parts of their
functionality are not about optical drives but about other aspects like
GUI or audio file conversion, though.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#204486

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2019-01-17 10:10 +0100
Message-ID<xhbQt-1Fn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204481
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:29:34 +0000 (UTC)
Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:

> it can write CDit more fit in section Utilities
> i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained
> BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?i use twm, i have no kde
> or gnome ...Thanks!
> 
> 

I use a number of KDE and Gnome applications, but I use the Xfce
desktop. They bring in some libraries from each DE, but if you are not
tight on hard drive space this should not be a problem.

I've settled on k3b for optical discs, which suits me.

-- 
Joe

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#204487 — (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromLong Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date2019-01-17 10:30 +0100
Subject(solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xhc9P-1M0-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.IMHO cd/dvd has been replaced by Internet and usb booti'm afraid cd/dvd technology is becoming obsolete

Thank Dominique Dumont, Thomas Schmitt and Joe! 

    On Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:06 PM, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
 

 On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:29:34 +0000 (UTC)
Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:

> it can write CDit more fit in section Utilities
> i'm afraid wodim isn't well maintained
> BTW can you recommend some dvd writing tool?i use twm, i have no kde
> or gnome ...Thanks!
> 
> 

I use a number of KDE and Gnome applications, but I use the Xfce
desktop. They bring in some libraries from each DE, but if you are not
tight on hard drive space this should not be a problem.

I've settled on k3b for optical discs, which suits me.

-- 
Joe



   

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#204488

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2019-01-17 11:30 +0100
Message-ID<xhd5T-2lc-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204487
Hi,

Long Wind wrote:
> i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.

If you use DVD-R make sure to stay away from option "-use-the-force-luke=dao".
See
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794868

(Classical bit rot.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#204492 — Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromDavid <bouncingcats@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 15:30 +0100
SubjectRe: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xhgQa-4Ns-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204487
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 20:22, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.
> IMHO cd/dvd has been replaced by Internet and usb boot
> i'm afraid cd/dvd technology is becoming obsolete
>
> Thank Dominique Dumont, Thomas Schmitt and Joe!

Hi Long Wind

You wrote a nice reply above, but I want to tell you that
it is missing something important.

As explained here:
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
where it says:
"Say what action solved the problem"
and
"Describe what worked as a solution".

Why is this important? Because you changed the subject
to include "(solved)". And because when people in future
searching the email archive for help with their problem
see the word "(solved)" in the subject, they expect that
means that the message will *contain* *the* *solution*.

If you don't want to bother writing out your solution, then
please don't put "(solved)" in the subject.

But the best way, the way that is better for everyone, will
be if you put "(solved)" in the subject *and* *also* write
a short description of how you solved your problem, which
will help future readers.

Doing that makes the email archive a useful resource for
future readers. And that is the correct way to use the
"(solved)" tag.

I noticed that you have done this many times before, so
today I write to explain this to you. Thanks for being aware
of this in future.

Best wishes
David

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#204497 — Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-01-17 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xhjEm-6vd-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204492
On 2019-01-17, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 20:22, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.
>> IMHO cd/dvd has been replaced by Internet and usb boot
>> i'm afraid cd/dvd technology is becoming obsolete
>>
>> Thank Dominique Dumont, Thomas Schmitt and Joe!
>
> Hi Long Wind
>
> You wrote a nice reply above, but I want to tell you that
> it is missing something important.
>
> As explained here:
> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
> where it says:
> "Say what action solved the problem"
> and
> "Describe what worked as a solution".
>

I think before describing what worked as a solution he must first
articulate a problem amenable to being solved.

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#204501 — Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromDavid <bouncingcats@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 23:10 +0100
SubjectRe: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xho1j-NW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204497
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 04:20, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2019-01-17, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 20:22, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.
> >> IMHO cd/dvd has been replaced by Internet and usb boot
> >> i'm afraid cd/dvd technology is becoming obsolete
> >>
> >> Thank Dominique Dumont, Thomas Schmitt and Joe!
> >
> > Hi Long Wind
> >
> > You wrote a nice reply above, but I want to tell you that
> > it is missing something important.
> >
> > As explained here:
> > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
> > where it says:
> > "Say what action solved the problem"
> > and
> > "Describe what worked as a solution".
> >
>
> I think before describing what worked as a solution he must first
> articulate a problem amenable to being solved.

Yes, I am aware. In my experience, (possible) language differences
are best negotiated in small steps.

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#204504 — Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromLong Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date2019-01-18 01:30 +0100
SubjectRe: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xhqcN-26u-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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i never have list archive searcher in mindby adding "solved" i mean that list users stop recommending dvd tool
actually i'm not seeking help to solve problem, i just seek recommendation
maybe next time i'll use other tag (than solved) or not add tag at all.
 

    On Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:27 PM, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 20:22, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i've got growisofs working, i'm unwilling to test more app.
> IMHO cd/dvd has been replaced by Internet and usb boot
> i'm afraid cd/dvd technology is becoming obsolete
>
> Thank Dominique Dumont, Thomas Schmitt and Joe!

Hi Long Wind

You wrote a nice reply above, but I want to tell you that
it is missing something important.

As explained here:
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
where it says:
"Say what action solved the problem"
and
"Describe what worked as a solution".

Why is this important? Because you changed the subject
to include "(solved)". And because when people in future
searching the email archive for help with their problem
see the word "(solved)" in the subject, they expect that
means that the message will *contain* *the* *solution*.

If you don't want to bother writing out your solution, then
please don't put "(solved)" in the subject.

But the best way, the way that is better for everyone, will
be if you put "(solved)" in the subject *and* *also* write
a short description of how you solved your problem, which
will help future readers.

Doing that makes the email archive a useful resource for
future readers. And that is the correct way to use the
"(solved)" tag.

I noticed that you have done this many times before, so
today I write to explain this to you. Thanks for being aware
of this in future.

Best wishes
David



   

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#204506 — Re: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os

FromDavid <bouncingcats@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-18 03:50 +0100
SubjectRe: (solved)Re: why wodim is in section other os
Message-ID<xhsoi-3lB-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#204504
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 11:28, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i never have list archive searcher in mind

please do.

[...]
> actually i'm not seeking help to solve problem, i just seek recommendation

ok

> maybe next time i'll use other tag (than solved) or not add tag at all.

Yes, if you are not *solving* a problem, then don't use the (solved) tag!

That will be good. Thanks for understanding!

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