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  Setting a USB for multi usages MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2019-01-11 21:50 +0100
    Re: Setting a USB for multi usages Joel Wirāmu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> - 2019-01-11 23:00 +0100
    Re: Setting a USB for multi usages "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-01-11 23:10 +0100
      Re: Setting a USB for multi usages MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2019-01-12 10:20 +0100
        Re: Setting a USB for multi usages "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-01-12 13:00 +0100
          Re: Setting a USB for multi usages Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-01-12 16:50 +0100
    Re: Setting a USB for multi usages Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-05-19 11:10 +0200

#204325 — Setting a USB for multi usages

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Hi,

My purpose is having a USB stick splitted in 2 parts:
1. MBR + partitions: a Debian installer from an ISO
2. A blank partition to install data or whatver

While I know to "burn" an iso on a key via dd, how can I do to have a 
clean installer but using key for other usages?

Thanks very much

regards

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#204327

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If using Uefi installs you only need to have a vfat formated first
partition with a folder called efi and the appropriate efi
binary/substructure. You can use the rest of the disk as you like.

BIOS installers on the same can be achieved with syslinux in addition to
uefi. However I find that just having uefi seems to go better these days
(at least if installing onto recent hardware). Due to varying levels of
vendor write as around CSM (compatibility BIOS/system mode) breaking dual
BIOS/eufi media installers.

-Joel

On Sat., 12 Jan. 2019, 09:48 MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My purpose is having a USB stick splitted in 2 parts:
> 1. MBR + partitions: a Debian installer from an ISO
> 2. A blank partition to install data or whatver
>
> While I know to "burn" an iso on a key via dd, how can I do to have a
> clean installer but using key for other usages?
>
> Thanks very much
>
> regards
>
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#204329

Hi,

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> My purpose is having a USB stick splitted in 2 parts:
> 1. MBR + partitions: a Debian installer from an ISO
> 2. A blank partition to install data or whatver
>
> While I know to "burn" an iso on a key via dd, how can I do to have a clean
> installer but using key for other usages?

Put the ISO onto the stick, completely deface its pseudo-GPT,
and use program fdisk to add one or more partitions.

The partition situation in a Debian ISO for x86 is not as nice
as it should/could be:

  $ /sbin/fdisk -lu debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
  ...
  Device                          Boot Start    End Sectors  Size Id Type
  debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso1 *        0 593919  593920  290M  0 Empty
  debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso2       3760   4591     832  416K ef EFI (FAT-12/1

Note the EFI partition 2 of type 0xef sitting inside partition 1 which
is of type 0x00.
Nevertheless fdisk will add partition 3 and 4 if you ask it to do so.


There are the data of a GPT, but it is not properly announced by a
protective MBR partition of type 0xee. The GPT shows the same overlapping
partitions, which are explicitely forbidden by the GPT specs.
Thus my advise to remove the GPT header block:

  dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=1 count=1 conv=notrunc of=/dev/sdX

where /dev/sdX is the device file of your USB stick.
(Option conv=notrunc is just for the case your of= target is an .iso file
 and not a disk device file.)


On a USB stick, the GPT backup header will probably not be recognized
because it will be misplaced. But an overly smart partition editor might
still find it and propose to replace your MBR partition table by that
GPT.

To kill the backup GPT header, you need to compute the last 512-byte
block number n of the ISO (in case of the 9.3.0 ISO n is 593919):

  n=$(expr $(ls -l debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso | awk '{print $5}') / 512 - 1)

and zeroize that block:

  dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=$n count=1 conv=notrunc of=/dev/sdX

After this, programs like gdisk will not try to overwrite the MBR
partition table by the GPT.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#204340

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. As I want debian 8 installer, I am not sure about 
EFI so I use this method, I could not have creatd it myself.

Le 11/01/2019 à 23:03, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
>> My purpose is having a USB stick splitted in 2 parts:
>> 1. MBR + partitions: a Debian installer from an ISO
>> 2. A blank partition to install data or whatver
>>
>> While I know to "burn" an iso on a key via dd, how can I do to have a clean
>> installer but using key for other usages?
> 
> Put the ISO onto the stick, completely deface its pseudo-GPT,
> and use program fdisk to add one or more partitions.
1. I issue dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
2. Then: dd if=my-iso of=/dev/sdb
3. I ran the command you suggest below.

dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=1 count=1 of=/dev/sdb
dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=$n count=1 of=/dev/sdb

Now at mounting, I have a strange behavior: polki requires a root 
password to mount both the Debian partition and the data partition. I 
use Debian sid with MATE desktop.

Why? Is it a misbehavior I should report to polkit or semething else? 
How can I mount the partitions, in particular the data one, to let the 
user write and read?

Thanks

Regards


> The partition situation in a Debian ISO for x86 is not as nice
> as it should/could be:
> 
>    $ /sbin/fdisk -lu debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>    ...
>    Device                          Boot Start    End Sectors  Size Id Type
>    debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso1 *        0 593919  593920  290M  0 Empty
>    debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso2       3760   4591     832  416K ef EFI (FAT-12/1
> 
> Note the EFI partition 2 of type 0xef sitting inside partition 1 which
> is of type 0x00.
> Nevertheless fdisk will add partition 3 and 4 if you ask it to do so.
> 
> 
> There are the data of a GPT, but it is not properly announced by a
> protective MBR partition of type 0xee. The GPT shows the same overlapping
> partitions, which are explicitely forbidden by the GPT specs.
> Thus my advise to remove the GPT header block:
> 
>    dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=1 count=1 conv=notrunc of=/dev/sdX
> 
> where /dev/sdX is the device file of your USB stick.
> (Option conv=notrunc is just for the case your of= target is an .iso file
>   and not a disk device file.)
> 
> 
> On a USB stick, the GPT backup header will probably not be recognized
> because it will be misplaced. But an overly smart partition editor might
> still find it and propose to replace your MBR partition table by that
> GPT.
> 
> To kill the backup GPT header, you need to compute the last 512-byte
> block number n of the ISO (in case of the 9.3.0 ISO n is 593919):
> 
>    n=$(expr $(ls -l debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso | awk '{print $5}') / 512 - 1)
> 
> and zeroize that block:
> 
>    dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 seek=$n count=1 conv=notrunc of=/dev/sdX
> 
> After this, programs like gdisk will not try to overwrite the MBR
> partition table by the GPT.
> 
> 
> Have a nice day :)
> 
> Thomas
> 

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#204348

Hi,

> Now at mounting, I have a strange behavior: polki requires a root password
> to mount both the Debian partition and the data partition. I use Debian sid
> with MATE desktop.

If the partitions are recognized by the Linux kernel (i.e. show up as
/dev/sdb1, sdb2, sdb3) then the partition table is ok.

Password questions for mounting USB sticks seem to be normal.
Google "polkit mount password" yields plenty of discussions and proposals.
Maybe one of our fellow group members can shorten your search for the
right one.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#204353

On 01/12/2019 05:58 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> Now at mounting, I have a strange behavior: polki requires a root password
>> to mount both the Debian partition and the data partition. I use Debian sid
>> with MATE desktop.
> 
> If the partitions are recognized by the Linux kernel (i.e. show up as
> /dev/sdb1, sdb2, sdb3) then the partition table is ok.
> 
> Password questions for mounting USB sticks seem to be normal.
> Google "polkit mount password" yields plenty of discussions and proposals.
> Maybe one of our fellow group members can shorten your search for the
> right one.
> 

As one who has had many problems with privileges/permissions/etc issues, 
"polkit" is the keyword.

I did the suggested search and found:
    http://smcv.pseudorandom.co.uk/2015/why_polkit/
and
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#For_specific_actions

They briefly summarize the problem system designers faced and hint at 
how a user could approach solving the problems in particular use case.

Wish someone had pointed me to polkit a long time ago.

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#208844

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On Vi, 11 ian 19, 21:48:06, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My purpose is having a USB stick splitted in 2 parts:
> 1. MBR + partitions: a Debian installer from an ISO
> 2. A blank partition to install data or whatver
> 
> While I know to "burn" an iso on a key via dd, how can I do to have a clean
> installer but using key for other usages?

Instead of "burning" the iso image you can manually create a bootable 
stick and regular-copy an iso of your choice (and anything else you 
want) to it.

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-flexible

Kind regards,
Andrei
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