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  hp inkjet printer steef <debian.linux@home.nl> - 2019-05-20 09:40 +0200
    Re: hp inkjet printer Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-05-20 09:50 +0200
      Re: hp inkjet printer steef <debian.linux@home.nl> - 2019-05-20 10:00 +0200
        Re: hp inkjet printer didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2019-05-20 17:50 +0200
          Re: hp inkjet printer Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-20 18:10 +0200
          Re: hp inkjet printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-20 20:40 +0200
            Re: hp inkjet printer ghe <ghe@slsware.net> - 2019-05-20 21:40 +0200
              Re: hp inkjet printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-20 21:50 +0200
            Re: hp inkjet printer didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2019-05-21 10:20 +0200
              Re: hp inkjet printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-21 18:20 +0200
                Re: hp inkjet printer didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2019-05-21 19:10 +0200
    Fwd: hp inkjet printer steef <debian.linux@home.nl> - 2019-05-20 10:10 +0200
    Re: hp inkjet printer Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-05-20 13:20 +0200
    Re: hp inkjet printer Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-20 18:20 +0200

#208884 — hp inkjet printer

Hii folks,

After years my rather cumbersome canon mp280 printer definitely gave up. Now i am looking for a more convenient simple HP inkjetprinter. 
Somebody some suggestions?

Thank you,

Steef

Groningen, Holland

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#208885

On 20/05/2019 08:18, steef wrote:
> Hii folks,
> 
> After years my rather cumbersome canon mp280 printer definitely gave up.
> Now i am looking for a more convenient simple HP inkjetprinter. Somebody
> some suggestions?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Steef
> 
> Groningen, Holland
> 

I am using a HP envy 5530 inkjet,  works really well.  It does use the
hp301 black / colour cartridges,  there are newer models.  HP support
for linux is very good.  Ink isn't cheap but ink isn't cheap anyway.

However if you remove 1 of the 2 cartridges e.g colour it will switch to
just using a single cartridge which is really handy if you run out, you
can keep printing (great for that emergency print) until new ink arrives.

Paul



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#208886

thanks paul


On 20-05-19 09:47, Paul Sutton wrote:
> 
> 

> I am using a HP envy 5530 inkjet,  works really well.  It does use the
> hp301 black / colour cartridges,  there are newer models.  HP support
> for linux is very good.  Ink isn't cheap but ink isn't cheap anyway.
> 
> However if you remove 1 of the 2 cartridges e.g colour it will switch to
> just using a single cartridge which is really handy if you run out, you
> can keep printing (great for that emergency print) until new ink arrives.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 

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#208911

there is a useful page on the HP website about HPLIP and all supported
HP printers:
 https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index

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#208913

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Quoting didier gaumet (2019-05-20 17:40:18)
> there is a useful page on the HP website about HPLIP and all supported
> HP printers:
>  https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index

...but beware of printers requiring non-free drivers, also some from HP: 
https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#Non-free_Printer_Drivers_and_Firmware


 - Jonas

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#208921

On Mon 20 May 2019 at 17:40:18 +0200, didier gaumet wrote:

> there is a useful page on the HP website about HPLIP and all supported
> HP printers:
>  https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index

This page is very useful for a legacy printer, which would require
HPLIP. A modern printer (which one presumes steef intends to purchase),
does not need HPLIP. Unfortunately, users still reach for a driver for
a recent HP printer - even though it is completely unnecessary. It is
will probably be ages before users catch on and clutching a blanket for
setting up printing disappears.

-- 
Brian.
> 

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#208929

Yet another suggestion for laser.

I read on the screen most of the time. I used to have an HP inkjet, and
the ink kept drying out and clogging the jets, resulting in many wasted
ink cartridges.

When it was cooking, it made much prettier pictures than the B&W HP
laser printer that replaced it does. But for plain old code listings and
letters and stuff, the laser is just fine.

-- 
Glenn English

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#208930

On Mon 20 May 2019 at 13:32:52 -0600, ghe wrote:

> Yet another suggestion for laser.
> 
> I read on the screen most of the time. I used to have an HP inkjet, and
> the ink kept drying out and clogging the jets, resulting in many wasted
> ink cartridges.
> 
> When it was cooking, it made much prettier pictures than the B&W HP
> laser printer that replaced it does. But for plain old code listings and
> letters and stuff, the laser is just fine.

The mail you are replying to has nothing to do with inkjet vs laser.
Would you like to reread it and respond appropriately?

-- 
Brian.

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#208943

Le 20/05/2019 à 20:30, Brian a écrit :
> On Mon 20 May 2019 at 17:40:18 +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> 
>> there is a useful page on the HP website about HPLIP and all supported
>> HP printers:
>>  https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index
> 
> This page is very useful for a legacy printer, which would require
> HPLIP. A modern printer (which one presumes steef intends to purchase),
> does not need HPLIP. Unfortunately, users still reach for a driver for
> a recent HP printer - even though it is completely unnecessary. It is
> will probably be ages before users catch on and clutching a blanket for
> setting up printing disappears.
> 

I would agree with you Brian, that a driver is unnecessary with a modern
print-only network printer, but I suppose a driver would be appropriate
if you prefer to use a USB cable or if the "printer" is a
printer+scanner combo and you want to be able to scan? :-)

(In fact the OP said he wants a simpler printer than his MP280 (a combo)
but I am at a loss to interpret this as a true print-only printer or a
more user-friendly and less cumbersome printer+scanner combo)

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#208957

On Tue 21 May 2019 at 10:11:30 +0200, didier gaumet wrote:

> Le 20/05/2019 à 20:30, Brian a écrit :
> > On Mon 20 May 2019 at 17:40:18 +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> > 
> >> there is a useful page on the HP website about HPLIP and all supported
> >> HP printers:
> >>  https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index
> > 
> > This page is very useful for a legacy printer, which would require
> > HPLIP. A modern printer (which one presumes steef intends to purchase),
> > does not need HPLIP. Unfortunately, users still reach for a driver for
> > a recent HP printer - even though it is completely unnecessary. It is
> > will probably be ages before users catch on and clutching a blanket for
> > setting up printing disappears.
> > 
> 
> I would agree with you Brian, that a driver is unnecessary with a modern
> print-only network printer, but I suppose a driver would be appropriate
> if you prefer to use a USB cable or if the "printer" is a
> printer+scanner combo and you want to be able to scan? :-)

A USB-connected  modern printer is likely not to be a problem; it should
be capable of IPP-over-USB, for which Debian has the ippusbxd package.
However, a user needs to be aware that using ippusbxd with an all-in-one
renders scanning inoperable.

You are correct regarding scanning. This process still requires a driver
from the vendor, but there are plans to develop driverless scanning for
Linux during the coming year. Actually, depending on the device, it is
possible to do it now.

-- 
Brian.

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#208959

Le 21/05/2019 à 18:15, Brian a écrit :

> A USB-connected  modern printer is likely not to be a problem; it should
> be capable of IPP-over-USB, for which Debian has the ippusbxd package.
> However, a user needs to be aware that using ippusbxd with an all-in-one
> renders scanning inoperable.

Excellent: impossibility to scan is a trade-off but nonetheless it is
great news and I wasn't even aware of this protocol

> You are correct regarding scanning. This process still requires a driver
> from the vendor, but there are plans to develop driverless scanning for
> Linux during the coming year. Actually, depending on the device, it is
> possible to do it now.

Another excellent perspective :-)

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#208887

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Subject: hp inkjet printer
Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 07:37:54 +0000 (UTC)
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:18:06 +0200
From: steef <debian.linux@home.nl>
Reply-To: debian.linux@home.nl
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Hii folks,

After years my rather cumbersome canon mp280 printer definitely gave up. Now i am looking for a more convenient simple HP inkjetprinter on 
debian stretch. Somebody some suggestions?

Thank you,

Steef

Groningen, Holland

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#208893

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steef wrote:
> Hii folks,
>
> After years my rather cumbersome canon mp280 printer definitely gave
> up. Now i am looking for a more convenient simple HP inkjetprinter. 
> Somebody some suggestions?

If B&W is fine, either an HP or Brother laser isn't considerably more
expensive (and you'll save money in the long run, since you don't have
to deal with "oh no, the ink has dried up again...").

Color lasers are a bit on the expensive side though (2-3x an inkjet,
IIRC), and people always say they're "not as crisp" as inkjets for
photos; if that's something you care about.


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#208915

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Quoting steef (2019-05-20 09:18:06)
> After years my rather cumbersome canon mp280 printer definitely gave 
> up. Now i am looking for a more convenient simple HP inkjetprinter.
> Somebody some suggestions?

I don't have concrete suggestions for wet-ink printers¹ and availability 
and best offers also tend to be tied to geographical regions.

If buying a _new_ printer I can generally recommend to look at ones 
certified "IPP Everywhere" http://www.pwg.org/dynamo/eveprinters.php or 
"AirPrint" https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311

For refurbished and others "non-certified" it is far more 
trial-and-error.


 - Jonas

¹ I use only laser printers myself, and am currently happy with two 
refurbished Brother CMYK laser printers which are relatively cheap in 
toner - but they lack proper color calibration as that involves a 
non-free driver offered only for i386 and my CUPS server runs armhf.

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 * Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: http://dr.jones.dk/

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