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Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

Started byGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post2019-05-08 00:50 +0200
Last post2019-05-08 21:30 +0200
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  Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-08 00:50 +0200
    Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-08 08:20 +0200
      Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-05-08 09:10 +0200
      Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-08 10:00 +0200
        Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-08 10:20 +0200
        Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-08 11:00 +0200
        Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-05-08 12:00 +0200
    Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-08 09:50 +0200
      Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-08 10:30 +0200
        Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-05-08 11:00 +0200
          Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-08 20:10 +0200
            Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-08 21:30 +0200
          Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-08 20:40 +0200
            Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-05-08 21:30 +0200

#208377 — Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-05-08 00:50 +0200
SubjectHelp, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100
Message-ID<xVh4l-VG-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings all;

First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which are 
secured.
Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at least a 
hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North Central WV.

Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway, its been 
sleeping with dhcp for way too long.

I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network configurator
but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address on my local net that 
isn't already taken.

So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static wired 
network setup? 

In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot than 
any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have named it 
window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.

Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#208386

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-05-08 08:20 +0200
Message-ID<xVo5P-5qo-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208377
On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.

> 
> Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett

usually bottom left corner click windows icon
click the settings that looks like a cog
select Ethernet / Change adapter options
hopefully there will be a picture of your adapters
right click / properties
select internet Protocol Version TCP/IPv4
[x] use the following address
might well want to restart

good luck
mick
-- 
Key ID    4BFEBB31

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#208387

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2019-05-08 09:10 +0200
Message-ID<xVoSd-5Wy-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208386

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On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:16:29AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >Greetings all;
> >
> >First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> 
> >
> >Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett
> 
> usually bottom left corner click windows icon
> click the settings that looks like a cog
> select Ethernet / Change adapter options
> hopefully there will be a picture of your adapters
> right click / properties
> select internet Protocol Version TCP/IPv4
> [x] use the following address
> might well want to restart

Perhaps your machine doesn't come with Windows drivers for
its Ethernet hardware?

(/me runs for cover ;-P

Cheers
-- t

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#208389

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-05-08 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<xVpEB-6dz-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208386
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 02:16:29 am mick crane wrote:

> On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett
>
> usually bottom left corner click windows icon
> click the settings that looks like a cog
> select Ethernet / Change adapter options
> hopefully there will be a picture of your adapters
> right click / properties
> select internet Protocol Version TCP/IPv4
> [x] use the following address
> might well want to restart
>
> good luck
> mick

That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux 
machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes.

And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a 
whole, has lots of names in the menu I never heard of, and when I try to 
give it an ipv4 address, I get to 192.168.71.3 error beep, error beep, 
and it will not take an entry past the 3. Now, I am 1st user, but no 
place do I recall being asked for admin rights via a passwd. Not finding 
a shutdown, I killed it with the power switch when I gave up for the 
night.

Thanks mick.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#208390

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-05-08 10:20 +0200
Message-ID<xVpXX-6zC-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208389
On 2019-05-08 08:55, Gene Heskett wrote:

> That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux
> machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes.
> 
> And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as 
> a
> whole, has lots of names in the menu I never heard of, and when I try 
> to
> give it an ipv4 address, I get to 192.168.71.3 error beep, error beep,
> and it will not take an entry past the 3. Now, I am 1st user, but no
> place do I recall being asked for admin rights via a passwd. Not 
> finding
> a shutdown, I killed it with the power switch when I gave up for the
> night.

That's weird. Maybe you aren't administrator
Probably you can change at
Control Panel\User Accounts\User Accounts\Manage Accounts\Change an 
Account
As I said in off list post it helps to try to disable much of the 
"helpful" windows stuff.
mick
-- 
Key ID    4BFEBB31

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#208392

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2019-05-08 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<xVqAF-6N2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208389
On Wed, 8 May 2019 03:55:03 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:


> 
> That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux 
> machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15
> minutes.

Very definitely not right. Maybe it feels outnumbered...

> 
> And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6
> as a whole, has lots of names in the menu I never heard of, and when
> I try to give it an ipv4 address, I get to 192.168.71.3 error beep,
> error beep, and it will not take an entry past the 3. Now, I am 1st
> user, but no place do I recall being asked for admin rights via a
> passwd. Not finding a shutdown, I killed it with the power switch
> when I gave up for the night.
> 

There's a box for Ethernet adaptor properties, it contains a list of
protocols with tickboxes, you should be able to turn off IPv6 and then
select IPv4 and click 'Properties'.

-- 
Joe

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#208394

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-05-08 12:00 +0200
Message-ID<xVrwJ-7lE-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208389
On 2019-05-08, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>
> That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux 
> machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes.
>
> And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a 
> whole, has lots of names in the menu I never heard of, and when I try to 

There's a IP protocol version toggle in the GUI method below.

> give it an ipv4 address, I get to 192.168.71.3 error beep, error beep, 
> and it will not take an entry past the 3. Now, I am 1st user, but no 
> place do I recall being asked for admin rights via a passwd. Not finding 
> a shutdown, I killed it with the power switch when I gave up for the 
> night.
>
> Thanks mick.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Start
Command Prompt/run as administrator
 ipconfig /all
Note fields:
 IPv4
 Subnet mask
 Default Gateway
 DNS Servers
Command: 
 netsh interface ip set address name="Ethernet0" static 10.1.2.220 255.255.255.0 10.1.2.1

where "Ethernet0" is your network adaptor and all those funny numbers
are your funny numbers.

For DNS:
 netsh interface ip set dns name="Ethernet0" static 10.1.2.1

GUI method: Open up the Settings app/Network & Internet/IP
settings/Edit/Manual/toggle on IPV4 and toggle off IPV6 (if necessary)
and the rest is self-explanatory.

All untried.

;-)

-- 
The boys at first were very polite about my medals and asked me what I had done
to get them. I showed them the papers, which were written in very beautiful
language and full of fratellanza and abnegazione, but which really said, with
the adjectives removed, that I had been given the medals because I was 
an American. - "Another Country"

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#208388

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2019-05-08 09:50 +0200
Message-ID<xVpuV-6a7-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208377
On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> Greetings all;
> 
> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which
> are secured.
> Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at
> least a hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North
> Central WV.
> 
> Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway, its
> been sleeping with dhcp for way too long.
> 
> I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network configurator
> but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address on my local net
> that isn't already taken.
> 
> So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static wired 
> network setup? 
> 
> In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot
> than any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have
> named it window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.
> 
Shouldn't. I have a W10 netbook, though I'm not familiar with it, it
had Debian installed within a week. Boot (from definitely off) is less
than thirty seconds. Booting should not be held up by network issues.

Open up the properties of the Ethernet adaptor, select TCP/IPv4,
Properties, then untick the automatic options. You should be able to
enter values in the address, mask and gateway boxes, and specify DNS
servers below. It shouldn't need a reboot.

-- 
Joe

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#208391

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-05-08 10:30 +0200
Message-ID<xVq7E-6CW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208388
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote:

> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400
>
> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which
> > are secured.
> > Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at
> > least a hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North
> > Central WV.
> >
> > Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway, its
> > been sleeping with dhcp for way too long.
> >
> > I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network
> > configurator but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address on
> > my local net that isn't already taken.
> >
> > So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static wired
> > network setup?
> >
> > In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot
> > than any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have
> > named it window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.
>
> Shouldn't. I have a W10 netbook, though I'm not familiar with it, it
> had Debian installed within a week. Boot (from definitely off) is less
> than thirty seconds. Booting should not be held up by network issues.
>
> Open up the properties of the Ethernet adaptor, select TCP/IPv4,
> Properties, then untick the automatic options. You should be able to
> enter values in the address, mask and gateway boxes, and specify DNS
> servers below. It shouldn't need a reboot.

There is no place in that sequence to select TCP/IPv4 on this machine.  
If ipv6 dhcp fails, you are apparently screwed. And they call this an 
OS? Not where (and when) I went to school.

Computers were 10,000+ 12AU7's and occupied whole floors of buildings. 6 
years after I took an 8th grade diploma and started fixing tv's for a 
living I saw the computer that graded the Iowa test, then considered the 
equ of the Stanford IQ, scoring a 147 on it. One tabloid sized Harris 
stream fed press with banks of photocells to read the dots on the paper 
at about 10 sheets a second.

I was a nerd the girls wouldn't touch because I don't think the word had 
been invented yet. Now after moving to broadcast engineering in the 
early 60's, 25 some years since with the door placard saying Chief 
Engineer, I did that till I retired in 2002, so now I'm just another old 
codger. Careing for my dying of copd wife, the third and at 30 years 
this fall, the longest.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#208393

Fromjohn doe <johndoe65534@mail.com>
Date2019-05-08 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<xVqAG-6N2-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208391
On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400
>>
>> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
>>> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which
>>> are secured.
>>> Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at
>>> least a hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North
>>> Central WV.
>>>
>>> Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway, its
>>> been sleeping with dhcp for way too long.
>>>
>>> I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network
>>> configurator but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address on
>>> my local net that isn't already taken.
>>>
>>> So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static wired
>>> network setup?
>>>
>>> In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot
>>> than any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have
>>> named it window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.
>>
>> Shouldn't. I have a W10 netbook, though I'm not familiar with it, it
>> had Debian installed within a week. Boot (from definitely off) is less
>> than thirty seconds. Booting should not be held up by network issues.
>>
>> Open up the properties of the Ethernet adaptor, select TCP/IPv4,
>> Properties, then untick the automatic options. You should be able to
>> enter values in the address, mask and gateway boxes, and specify DNS
>> servers below. It shouldn't need a reboot.
>
> There is no place in that sequence to select TCP/IPv4 on this machine.
> If ipv6 dhcp fails, you are apparently screwed. And they call this an
> OS? Not where (and when) I went to school.
>

Why not trying command line (netsh)?

--
John Doe

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#208413

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-05-08 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<xVzaV-3Rr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208393
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote:

> On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote:
> >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400
> >>
> >> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>>
> >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> >>> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of
> >>> which are secured.
> >>> Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at
> >>> least a hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North
> >>> Central WV.
> >>>
> >>> Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway,
> >>> its been sleeping with dhcp for way too long.
> >>>
> >>> I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network
> >>> configurator but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address
> >>> on my local net that isn't already taken.
> >>>
> >>> So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static
> >>> wired network setup?
> >>>
> >>> In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot
> >>> than any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have
> >>> named it window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.
> >>
> >> Shouldn't. I have a W10 netbook, though I'm not familiar with it,
> >> it had Debian installed within a week. Boot (from definitely off)
> >> is less than thirty seconds. Booting should not be held up by
> >> network issues.
> >>
> >> Open up the properties of the Ethernet adaptor, select TCP/IPv4,
> >> Properties, then untick the automatic options. You should be able
> >> to enter values in the address, mask and gateway boxes, and specify
> >> DNS servers below. It shouldn't need a reboot.
> >
> > There is no place in that sequence to select TCP/IPv4 on this
> > machine. If ipv6 dhcp fails, you are apparently screwed. And they
> > call this an OS? Not where (and when) I went to school.
>
> Why not trying command line (netsh)?
>
I haven't found a command line, yet. But today is another day. Let me get 
one eye open simultaneously first, cold, half a pot of yesterdays coffee 
hasn't kicked in yet.  Usually takes 2 to 3 cups to get me started 
right.

I'm also well pleased that I'm not being chastised for winders here, 
thank you very much for that. I bought this machine to serve as the web 
browser/administrator for a stemlab "redpitaya" because its one of the 
only bits of test gear I could find that can measure the impedance and 
reactance of a radio stations antenna tower and draw whats called a 
smith chart showing how that antenna is tuned.  They all have a matching 
network at the base of the tower, and as other gear gets hung on the 
tower, it goes out of tune. The make has both windows code and linux 
code but the linux code doesn't work, something wrong in the comm 
protocol.  Its taken me 3 weeks to convince the maker that his web page 
serving up this stuff is broken because it feeds a linux user following 
those directions, a windows .exe, which of course does run on linux.

Backing up one directory I found the linux code kit, buckets smaller than 
the windows .exe, an all written in python3. I've apt-get installed all 
the linux stuff, python3 wrapped around matplotlib. It opens its own 
window when run, and draws the basic chart on-screen, but its missing 
the right hand column of buttons and isn't talking to the redpitaya. Its 
actually an stm32 running ubuntu in a cig pack case, and the rf bridge 
in a similar case. But the web server seems disconnected from the app 
even though the ap is running on another workspace of the linux box 
running ff and accessing it.

Take a look at:

<https://redpitaya.readthedocs.io/en/latest/appsFeatures/apps-featured/vna/appVNA.html>

scrolling all the way to the bottom, you'll see a chart of a moderately 
well tuned antenna. Still isn't 100% centered on frequency, but a 
transmitter feeding it wouldn't be getting more than 1 or 2% of power 
reflected back to it.  The tower I'll tune first is reflecting a good 
20% back at the transmitter, making it run hot. The transmitter maker 
has sold the owner a handfull of big toroid cores to install on the 
feedline where it leaves the transmitter, but the ferrites have 
a "curie" temperature that can be below the boiling point of water in 
some formulations, that causes a loss of magnetic properties and makes 
the toroid run hot, hot enough he's shattered 2 of them like hitting 
glass with a hammer. At about $110 a core so busted.

All that will go away if the antenna is "properly tuned", and this is the 
gear that can tell me which way to move coil clips and what have you to 
do this to achieve a chart, hopefully even better than the one at the 
bottom of the above page.  That center dot should be closer to the 
horizontal centerline than it is. Ideally the center dots should be even 
closer to the 50 ohm mark at the center.

This of course changes with the weather, phase of the moon and which side 
of your mouth you've got a chaw of Kentucky Twist parked in. :)

All this is a dying art because the engineers that did do this tuning 
have largely died of old age.  And with the General Radio gear of the 
day, would have to spend hours in the middle of the night logging data, 
and hours the next day drawing a chart from that data, before they could 
make an adjustment, repeat each night and day till it was close enough 
for the girls he went with, something this device can do in ten or less 
minutes per adjustment/measure cycle.

My biggest problem will be in getting from the sma connector marked DUT 
for Device Under Test, on the bridge to the point on the matching 
network where the feed line from the transmitter is bolted into it. 
Those connections will need to be as short is possible.

Thats what this is all about. A ticket to participate in the show will 
cost maybe $1100.  Once.


> --
> John Doe


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#208425

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2019-05-08 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<xVAql-4yO-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208413
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:09:16 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:


> 
> I'm also well pleased that I'm not being chastised for winders here, 
> thank you very much for that.

On the whole, Debian is for grown-ups, not the Linux nutters. I've
earned a fair bit of money from Windows in the past, and I still need a
portable Windows machine for a few external peripherals and to run my
government's tax software. I actually have two now, but the netbook was
explicitly bought to be a Debian machine and I'm just mildly happy that
Win10 still runs, mostly for occasions like this.

Simplest way now to get a command prompt: 

Right-click the white Windows symbol at the left end of the taskbar,
select Run, type cmd and Return. It's a bit primitive compared to a
*nix shell, but it does a few jobs fairly well. If you do need more
oomph, higher up on the same right-click menu is Windows PowerShell,
which I've only ever needed to use on servers.

Also further up on the same menu is Network Connections. Open this and
towards the bottom right is Change Adaptor Options. Click here, then
right-click over the Ethernet entry, and Properties will give you the
protocol selection and configuration box you haven't found.

The first Windows user *still* is root, so it should let you straight
into the Properties. You want the Windows, right-click menu again for
Settings, then Accounts, which will let you as root create new accounts
and (*after* you set up another administrator account) will let you
demote your current user to unprivileged. That's a one-way street, of
course, you'll need to login as the administrator if you want to
promote it again. Most commands can be given from an unprivileged
account, when you will need to enter administrator credentials for the
kind which would require root on *nix. It isn't sudo, it doesn't have a
timeout, you need to re-enter credentials for each task.

If you left-click on the Windows icon, you get the dreadful Win8 tile
thing, but at least it has a program list on the left. Down near the
bottom are a few Windows directories, including Administrative Tools. An
unprivileged user can right-click on these programs and select Run as
Administrator, then give credentials. It is possible to do almost
anything (finally) as an unprivileged user if you know the admin
password. Even Win7 needed an admin login to do quite a few things.

Best of luck. Just don't ever say 'yes' to anything it offers to do for
you. Even Firefox on Windows is...pushy... it wants you to set up an
account and all that nonsense.

-- 
Joe

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#208419

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-05-08 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<xVzDX-41y-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208393
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote:

> On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote:
> >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400
> >>
> >> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>>
> >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network.
> >>> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of
> >>> which are secured.
> >>> Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at
> >>> least a hundred miles in any direction from  my 10-20 in North
> >>> Central WV.
> >>>
> >>> Third, I can't find a place to enter a netmask route or gateway,
> >>> its been sleeping with dhcp for way too long.
> >>>
> >>> I finally find what sort of looks like the old xp network
> >>> configurator but it error beeps at me to the entry of any address
> >>> on my local net that isn't already taken.
> >>>
> >>> So how do I convince this brand new unibody HP to use a static
> >>> wired network setup?
> >>>
> >>> In the FWIW category, it takes winders 10 about 10x longer to boot
> >>> than any of my linux machines. Makes me wonder if they should have
> >>> named it window-0.1 because it is boringly slow.
> >>
> >> Shouldn't. I have a W10 netbook, though I'm not familiar with it,
> >> it had Debian installed within a week. Boot (from definitely off)
> >> is less than thirty seconds. Booting should not be held up by
> >> network issues.
> >>
> >> Open up the properties of the Ethernet adaptor, select TCP/IPv4,
> >> Properties, then untick the automatic options. You should be able
> >> to enter values in the address, mask and gateway boxes, and specify
> >> DNS servers below. It shouldn't need a reboot.
> >
> > There is no place in that sequence to select TCP/IPv4 on this
> > machine. If ipv6 dhcp fails, you are apparently screwed. And they
> > call this an OS? Not where (and when) I went to school.
>
> Why not trying command line (netsh)?
>
netsh was able to apply a static address, but wasn't able to set a DNS.  
So I can ping all my machines by address, but can't get past the router 
because theres no dns set.

And this is windows 10 HOME EDITION, so there is no place to "run as 
admin" in the start menu's.

Next?  And I'm beat, I've been outside aiding and abetting tearing my 
yard all to h--- with a medium size Kubuto hoe.  Finding 3 more places 
where the 40 yo black waterline was leaking, so we dug all the way to 
the house and found the final leak in some galvanized fittings some 
idiot used to make the connection between the black plastic and the 
copper entering the house. 40 years ago. Fun and games NOT. If the guy 
was still living, I'd consider an Alaskan divorce, well worth the cost 
of the cartridge. He was famous for cutting every corner he could.

Anyway, in Home Edition of W10, how the heck do you get admin rights?

Many thanks to all that have tolerated me so far, its very much 
appreciated.

> --
> John Doe


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#208426

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2019-05-08 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<xVAql-4yO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#208419
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:31:35 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:


> 
> And this is windows 10 HOME EDITION, so there is no place to "run as 
> admin" in the start menu's.
> 
It can't join a domain, but otherwise there's not much difference in
versions.
> 
> Anyway, in Home Edition of W10, how the heck do you get admin rights?
> 
See my other post. Also you can find the command prompt on the menu at
the left of the tile screen (left-click on Windows icon) in the Windows
System menu, right-click, More.. and Run As Administrator. I take it
you've found how to get an unprivileged user account.

> Many thanks to all that have tolerated me so far, its very much 
> appreciated.
> 
You're welcome.

-- 
Joe

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